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Hammed Malik <[e-mail]> wrote:


>Ok, I didn't really want to get into this but after seeing so many posts about MAX
>being bug free, I went over to a friends place who has a beta copy of MAX to check
>it out.  His version was dated Jan 18 so it might not be the latest version.  This
>version seemed more like an alpha version than a beta.  Some examples:
>
>- tried to change viewport to fill the screen - crash!
>- set up a particle system, tried to render - crash!
>- I'm thinking 'ok, maybe thats asking too much out of a beta release' so I make a
>simple cube, try to render - crash!
>
>In about half an hour that I used the program for, it crashed every time I tried to
>do anything other than very simple stuff.  I hope Autodesk has fixed up MAX in the
>three months since they released the version I used.
>
>It really infuriates me, after trying MAX, to see people slamming LW for being
>buggy.  I bought the pre-release PC version after using Amiga versions for few
>years.  True, there were some bugs in the pre-release but none of them were critical
>enough to make the program unusable.  Almost all the bugs in LW 4 pre-release had
>workarounds.  I think a lot of people counting on this bug-infested MAX are going to
>be a little disappointed when they find out it isn't as 'rock solid' as they
>thought.  Every program in its first release has its share of bugs and MAX is no
>different.
>
>hammed
>


That january version is ancient. The last beta version avaiable before
they shut down the test was .38b and the thing is amazingly rock
solid.

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Now I'm confused... LIGHTWAVE 4.0 or 3D MAX?
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>I only wish they could update the look of the interface. Anyone tired of gray? I
>like the sleed Windows look with graphical
>Icons. Check-out Alias new Interface... That's really cool. Textured interface
>anyone?

>Jean-Eric

Actually I like it.  It is easy on the eyes and doesn't distract the eye when
doing previews.  However, since I know other people "see" things differently,
I think they should add some options for custom configuring the colors and
fonts at the least.



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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Dongle Failure
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In article <4ko80s$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (C Mak) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (C Mak)
>Subject: Re: Dongle Failure
>Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:51:23 GMT

>Don't know about all of you but I got my fixed up dongle back within
>two weeks of sending it back to NewTek and one week of that was my
>fault (I sent it UPS normal which took 5 days to deliver!!!).  I found
>NewTek's support to be friendly and helpful.  The dongle is another
>matter altogether :-)

>If I don't go out and buy another parallel port will a data switcher
>help prevent de-programming of the dongle.  At the moment, my printer
>sits unattached because I'm too paranoid to plug it into the dongle.
>I can get a data swticher cheap...but will it work?

>Chris

It has worked for me on two different computers.  I bought the type that is on
a cable and "glued" the switch part to the front side of the case.  That way,
I can plug the dongle in from the front of the computer.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: OFFTOPIC- Play's Snappy
Date: 15 Apr 1996 20:42:02 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]> Bryant Reif <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Bryant Reif <[e-mail]>
>Subject: OFFTOPIC- Play's Snappy
>Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 15:25:12 -0400

>Can anyone give me some info about the Snappy from Play?  I just checked out the
>samples from their web page
>and am having a hard time believing that those images were grabbed from video.

>1.  How the hell does it get resolutions up to something like 1500x1200 from a
>video signal?

Probably by interpolation.  Flatbed scanners do it all the time.

>2.  How important is the quality of video?  Is it the most essential element?

My guess is Garbage in Garbage out.

>3.  They say all you have to do is click the button and "presto" you have a
>flawless image.  How does this
>messure up to the actual use of the product experienced users?
>4.  Can you grab a high quality image from a paused image source (VHS deck), or
>do you have to have really good
>timing?

>thanks.
>--

>Bryant Reif
>mailto:[e-mail]
>http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant

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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave?
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:17:45 -0400
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To: Chris Golchert <[e-mail]>

Chris Golchert wrote:
>
> Bryant Reif ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : Here's a crazy idea... NewTek sells off LW.  Anyone think it is the answer for LW
> : (not NewTek)?
>
> : I'm sure people are going to flame me for this, but understand that I came from a
> : Mac/PC background and have no ties (or allegiance) to the Amiga.  And from at least
>
> if a BIG company sells LW then we will be expecting BIG prices.
>
> some of the companies mentioned would prob. bump the price up 10X
> bad enough the SGI version is going for 3K
>
> If the price goes up then the only people with LW will be companies that
> can afford it and anyone with access to a pirate bbs or say a friend with
> a cd-writer.
>
> maybe the intel version isn't making as much as the sgi version at 1/3
> the cost...lets drop it...
>
> while we at it lets see how many Amiga users are out there we can kill
> off since we no longer support that platform.  Might kill a lot of
> talent, I hate windoze 95 and can't see the switch...I run for the dos
> prompt as much as possible when using a PC.  My Amiga has been a
> lightwave "workstation" for three years (not that I can even afford a
> demo reel).   Not many people have seen my work (after the HD crash
> yesterday not many people will for a while).  there may be more people
> out there better than the "published" artists using it at a hobbie level
> until they can get there images to tape.

I truely sympathize with you in regards to your hard-drive crash. However, I hope this thread vented your frustrations. I
don't see why you would want to run LW from DOS. I use Windows 95 and NT everyday now, and I don't miss the Amiga. Except for
a few AREXX macros that don't work on Intel yet, it works so well. Using Windows, I'm able to multitask with Photoshop, so I
can create textures and use them in Lightwave. And I still have access to a lot of other applications. On the Amiga, you
can't render something and model something else at the same time. You can on the PC. YOu can even render multiple scenes at
the same time (although this may slow down the rendering).

But one of my favorite reason for liking Windows 95 and NT is virtual memory. When your scenes get very big and complex, like
the ones I often do, Windows will use the hard-disk as virtual memory. The Amiga will crash if it doesn't have enough memory.
And it will crash the whole computer and you'll have to reboot. An application crash on Windows rarelly affect other
multitasking operations. You just have to kill the bad app, and restart it.

I don't see why you miss the Amiga. But I still use it. I've connected it to my Pentium 166 through an Ethernet network. I
use the Toaster/Flyer to record my animations. I think they form a great combo.

Jean-Eric


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From: cjtsui <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Adobe Premier
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 21:53:55 -0700
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Robert Molaison wrote:
>
> Will Adobe Premier allow me to make avi files out of the saved rgb
> images in LW3d? I know that anims on the pc are limited to small sizes
> unless you have a hardware solution like the Personal animation
> Recorder. Are there any other programs to batch file the sequential
> images into avi's or Mpegs?

I use Premiere to make AVIs.

Just render my files as Targas.  Go into Premiere and load them up as a
Targa sequence.  From there, set the speed to 3000% (otherwise each
frame will be a second instead of 30th of a second).

Make a quicktime or avi from there, thats all!  The movie look much
better then what LW outputs.

later
Josh Tsui
Midway Games

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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
Date: 16 Apr 1996 00:29:53 -0400
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OK, so here's some of the scoop on 5.0, as it develops:

LightWave 5.0 is scheduled to ship April 16th at a price of $1495 on all
platforms.  Upgrade costs are $495 for Alpha and Intel, and $295 for
Amiga.

OpenGL is implimented in Layout and Modeler, with full-color background
images available, as well as some basic surfacing abilities in Modeler.
So, you can see your lighting effects without rendering, and see surfacing
effects, including displacements.

Included overall is an improved screen redraw, so altering objects and
using bones is much easier.  And they are going to continue working on
improving redraw times.

IK is improved, with more joint control, and joint "compensation" which
keeps objects from pinching and flattening around joints, and "flexing"
which simulates organic muscle movement.

Surfacing has some nifty new features, including the capability to "copy"
textures from the preview balls back onto the object, like an advanced
undo.  But more cool, is multiple surfacing on attributes.  Say you want
multiple bump maps on an object.  Just put the first on, then hit add next
surface, and keep going.  You can do it as much as you want.

You can now auto key frame in Layout, light cone angles are interactivly
adjustable and image map antialiasing is adjustable.

Modeler now has MetaNURBs, LightWave's own flavor of NURB rendering.  Hit
"Tab" and your object turns into a NURBs based object with control points.
 You can still use all the regular LightWave tools on your object, while
it is still NURBed.  And when you're done, just freeze it and you're ready
for Layout.

Also, there is a polygon reduction plug-in, as well as "Fori's Power
Texutre" which gives you interactive control over mapping textures on
objects.

Now that's just what I got from hanging around the booth a bit, and I'm
sure there is more.  The box says there are 100 plug-ins, and I can't wait
to see every one.  Now it's been inferred politely and rudely to keep a
rather strict LightWave line on posting, so I'll keep my editorial to this
for now:  I wasn't completely reasured.  But I did purchase my upgrade at
the booth.
--Brian
http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/
http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

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alt.stranahan....

Sure, I like that...


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A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON!
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From: [e-mail] (David Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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dnelson ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I and lots of my LW friends subscribed back in june to Lightspeed, the
: MONTHLY VIDEO MAGAZINE. Vol #6 should have shipped in January, what
gives???
: Is vol. 6 going to be labeled, Feb.-March-April-May issue?
: I don't want my money back. I just want my monthly video magazine.

It's not really my place to reply to this message, but Manuel Coats has
been extremely busy over the last 4-5 months and I don't think he has the
time to read the newsgroup anymore.  I'll attempt to answer your concerns
below...

Current plans for Lightspeed are to switch to BI-MONTHLY format...this
will not affect the number of issues your will receive, so if you paid for
a 12 issue subscription, you will receive 12 issues.

Issue #5 was the December 1995/January 1996 issue...issue #6 should have
been the February/March 1996 issue, but various hardware problems (a new
non-linear editor) and numerous other projects have made it very difficult
to meet deadlines.

As I said, I am not speaking for Lightspeed...this is just the situation
as I understand it.  I'll make sure that Mr. Coats is made aware of
everyone's concerns, but you can tell him yourself by visiting the new
Lightspeed web site at http://www.webcom.com/lghtspd

You can also check out all of the new products that are being offered by
Lightspeed and even purchase them with a credit card through the online
order form.

                                     -David Warner
                                      [e-mail]
                                      http://www.albany.net/~dwarner

                                     "Speaking only for myself"


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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: LW 5.0 Feature List
Date: 16 Apr 1996 04:47:06 GMT
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Source : Grue, a NewTek employee who hangs on IRC #lightwave
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What's new in LightWave 3D 5.0

There have been many additions to LightWave 3D. In fact there have been
nearly 200 new features added! Here is a quick glance at some of the
highlights.

Modeler

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, and Smoothing

* METANURBS Modeling Tool. This new tool combines the ease and flexibility
of polygonal modeling with the power and organic feel of NURBS modeling.

* Metaballs Modeling Plug In.  Powerful Organic modeling!

* Metaform2 Plug In.  Enhancment to the orginal metaform which allows you to
metaform polygons with more than four points.

*New Spline Modeling Tools

* Surface editing in Modeler.

* Tablet Support.  Allows absolute versus relative input devices.

* Randomization for Bevel and Array tools.

* Data sharing between Layout and Modeler.  Import and Export are Back!

*Enhanced True Type Support

* Massive Redraw Speed Enhancements.

* Lasso Style Zoom


Layout

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Includes support for up to 8
interactive lights   (Distant,  Point, or Spot). Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, Outline Only, and
Smoothing

*** Infinite Surface Layering! ***

* Alpha channels allowed on image mapping.

* New Cel Animation Features for Cel edges and Cel rendering. Make 3D look
hand drawn!

* MetaMation: A new organic animation plug-in that automatically smoothes
an object with Metaform before each frames' render.

* Bone Enhancements including, Joint Compensation, and Muscle Flexing.

* Inverse Kinematics improvements including active goals and goal
strengths.

* Multiple Target Object Morphing from one envelope.

* New Lens Flare modes including, central ring color and size
modifications, and star filter enhancements.

* Many User Interface Enhancements

* Color Swatches in RGB fields

* Interactive Camera Zoom Level

* Interactive Light Cone Angle

* Front Face View of objects for faster redraw and cleaner interface

* Color BKG images

* Render Sample Cube.

* Copy surfaces from rendered samples.

* New Plug In classes including Pixel Filter and Special Buffers for new
rendering and shader effects.

* Project images through spot lights.

* User definable Texture Map anti-aliasing.

* AutoKey Create mode for ultra-fast keyframe set up.

* Open GL Previews.

* Tiling and Alpha Channel options for Texture Maps.

* Dolly, Truck, and Pan capability allowing movement along any item's
axis.

* Effector: Allows a null object to interactively deform a mesh.

Plug In features included with LightWave 5.0


Equation
Lwpanels
Globsave
Effector: The Motion plug-in Effector
InheritRotation
JitterMotion
MathMotion
ParentBone
ParentCamera
ParentLight
ObjList
ObjectSequence
Effector: Displacement Map Plug-in
LazyPoints
Metamation
Blotch
CelShader
Checker
ColorCube
HSLColorCube
NormalColor
SurfBlurShader
SurfFuzzShader
Weave
ZOR    (Plug-in file: Zor.p)
BlurFilter
Convolve
Emboss
Gamma
Negative
NightVision
NTSC_Legalize
PAL_Legalize
PENNELLO
Sepia
SpecialBuffer
SurfBlurFilter
SurfFuzzFilter
VidNoise
Vignette
Watermark
AVI Savers
Image Loaders/Savers

    The formats HIIPSave.p allows you to load and save in Layout are:
Alias(.als), BMP(.bmp), Cineon(.cin), IFF(.iff), JPEG(.jpg), PCX(.pcx),
Pict(.pic), Pixar(.pxr), QRT(.qrt), Rendition(.6rn), SGI(.rgb), Sun(.sun),
TIFF(.tif), Targa32(.tga), Toaster(.vti), Wavefront(.rla), XWIndows(.xwd),
YUV(.yuv)

Storybrd.p
FilmExpand
4XStoryboard


ImageList
MotionDump
AllBGLayers
Arn_Calculate
BoundingBox
Cage
Calculate
Center
Center1D
CenterScale
CenterStretch
CutCurves
Envelopes
Gear
ImpSurf3D
Julienne
LightSwarm
LoadFonts
MathMotion
NextEmptyLayer
PathToMotion
Platonic
Plot1D
Plot2D
PointCenter
PolyEdgeShaper
New Primitives
Donut
        Wedge
Spline Cage
Random Points
Gear

RandPricks
RotateAnyAxis
RotateHPB
SceneToVRML
Stipple
SuperQuadric
Symmetrize
TextCompose
TextCurve
Throw
Toroid
Translator3DOptions
VRMLAutoSave
VRMLSave
Wedge
Add-Metaball
AutoPatcher
AutoPatcherMK
BGConform
Converge_Points
Fast-Triple-Fan
Fast-Triple-Traverse
Make_DoubleSided
MakeSpikey
Metaballs
MetaFormPlus
Points2Polys
Power-Texture
PowerView
RandPoints
Reduce-Polygons
Rest-On-Ground
Rotate-About-Normal
Rotate-Arbitrary-Axis
Rotate-To-Ground
Rotate-To-Object
Spherize
Squarize
Translator3D-Export
TriangleFan
TriangleStrip

Adam Chrystie
[e-mail]


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Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Dongle Failure
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In article <4kripr$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rich113) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Rich113)
>Subject: Re: Dongle Failure
>Date: 14 Apr 1996 15:14:03 -0400

>This may have something to do with dongle failures. I have my A2000 &
>MacIIci connected via serial port for sending files back & forth. When my
>Amiga is on & I turn on the second monitor connected to the Mac, the Amiga
>locks up. When I have the serial plug disconnected, everything is fine.
>I'm guessing static electricity. It never locks up the Mac though. Maybe
>Mac has better grounding, shielding, or whatever. (Macs are built somewhat
>better). I still need to check the ground throughout the office
>recepticles. I didn't have this problem in the other office. We moved in
>the winter so maybe it is just static because of the drier air. But it's
>possible that enough static can zap the dongle. If anyone can prove this
>to be true, how about a parallel port surge protector or just the right
>value capacitors connected in the right place ? Is one available ? If not
>it may be a good invention. What do you think ?

>[e-mail]

The Amiga has a non-standard serial port.  I forget which pin, but one of the
Amiga pins should have no connection on it.  I think the Amiga Serial port
supplies power.  Look into this or check with the Amiga groups where someone
may be able to give you the straight detailed scoop.

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Seemless Textures (WAS Re: Is it true?)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin) writes:

>So far I think your right about this. Basically, it seems like the suggestions
>that are being made are great IF you just stay in the program that created the
>texture. But the whole thing will still boil down to the fact that a person
>would have to screw around in some sort of paint program FOREVER be fore he
>gets something that will have the matching seams that LW needs. Take a big
>square of grass "like some pictures that I took", and they generally look
>pretty good on their own, even without mirroring. But to make them look right
>I still will have to go and do a clip off of one side and then rotate it and
>flip it and paste it on the other side. PhotoShop does this quite well, but
>takes you a very long time.............I guess that when it's all said and
>done, I still have more work to do then I think is neccesary....:(
>........oh well..............md

Clip and rotate?  Use the Offset filter.  It is a lot easier.


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From: [e-mail] (Owen Coughlan)
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In article <4kbu24$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] () wrote:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]> writes:
>|>Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!news.jrd.dec.
>|>3DS uses standard lens settings. You can also create your own. Aspect
ratios are
>|>really easy to do and are shown visually. I would like to see the output
options
>|>in 3DS like Lightwave though.
>|>
>|>> In other words, if you're a designer trying to match graphics to film, LW
>|>> makes the simplest interface -- you don't need a video/film technician
looking
>|>> over your shoulder to render the correct format.
>|>
>|>In 3DS you just display the frame as a background image to your modeling
and
>|>animtion windows. I don't know of an easier way to do it than that.
>|>
>|>Jeff,

See below...

>
> Did you see the last two HyperNauts shows. The interaction with the Flying
> Mantas in the first was excellent, and the week they had the giant insects
> was also very good. A little more complex than displaying a background
image.
> Of course in games this is all that is needed, in video/television you have
> to composit with real video. Mind you it's not all LW (I assume sombody
> does the composit later) but the person using LW has to keep all this in
> mind when he sets the scene up.
>
> -bill|>

I think that some of those quotes above were mine, so I'll respond for
clarity:

One of the things lacking in 3ds is a multi-format camera interface.  In LW
it's a component of the system.  By Multi-format I mean, ACADEMY, WIDE SCREEN,
NTSC TV, PAL TV, etc. etc.

HOWEVER, it's more important than that. When they shoot something in film the
DOP (Director Of Photography) and Director will choose a lens for a specific
reason -- in LW the focal lengths are programmed acording to their specific
asect ratios in the real world, so if I shoot with a 20mm lens in academy 35
film, then LW lets me match it immediately with tthe click of a mouse.  In 3ds
the lenes are based on still photography, which results in a slightly
different series of perspectives.  A 28mm still-camera lens, and a 28mm motion
picture lens pick up a different angle of view -- even if they're the SAME
LENS!.  That lens on a 16mm camera (or Super-16) will produce yet another
different field of view.  In 3DS this requires lists of tables and
calculations to get acceptable accuracy -- BEFORE you even attempt to match
perspective.  In LW you just change your format and look at some continuity
notes.

Incidently, this is a pro-vs-con situation for me -- I like 3DS, but I can
appreciate the convenience of these LW features.

Owen Coughlan


Owen Coughlan
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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Farrell)
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Guustaaf Damave ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I just upgraded to a Cyrix 686 100 Mhz. I haven't used Lightwave much on it yet, but so
: far I haven't had any problems. I'd be happy to run a test scene on it if someone can
: recommend one.

Well, I recently purchased a 6x86 machine, and I'm currently trying to unload
it.  I saw an article in BYTE magazine exactly one week after I picked the
machine up, and it said that while the 6x86-100 is as fast as a P5-133 at
most tasks, it's only as fast as a P5-90 on floating-point math.  I ran
several benchmarks and found this to be true: it smoked one of the P5-90s
back at the office on all other tasks, but they were virtually neck-a-neck
on the FPU tests.  As a result, I've currently got a P5-133 on order.

Oh, well. Caveat emptor.

Gordon Farrell
[e-mail]

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Node1 is now available in the Demo section of ftp.newtek.com (The
NewTek
Site).  Sorry about the delay, I had problems uploading.

Node1 is a standalone renderer for PC lightwave.  In fact, Lightwave
doesn't
have to be loaded.  Just run Node1, enter the scene file you want to
generate images from, and press the green button.  You can also change
the
rendering mode, destination directories, shading, aliasing, frame
number,
etc... before you press the green button.  Check it out...

The filename is 'Nod1DEMO.zip' under the Demo section.


                             * * *  Node1  * * *

                         for Windows95 and WindowsNT
                     Copyright (c) 1996 EXP Engineering


NODE1 is a front end program for Lightwave's ScreamerNETII program.
Node1
only runs under one cpu machine (single node, hence Node1 :).  NODE1
will
give you the ability to render Lightwave's Scene files without having
the
main Lightwave program running.  This is possible through ScreamerNET.
Since ScreamerNET itself IS Lightwave without the interface, NODE1
takes
advantage of the following:

        - Significant decrease in rendering times.  This is true for
Windows95
          where we've rendered a Scene file up to 100% faster than
Lightwave!
          Sometimes faster than NT!

        - Runs with full single node ScreamerNETII capabilities.

        - More available RAM for rendering.  This is because Lightwave
is not
          running, only ScreamerNET.

So what's so special about NODE1?  When you load a scene file through
NODE1,
it allows you to make any last minute changes before you start
rendering,
such as motion blur, RGB image destinations, raytracing, resolutions,
etc.
This is possible because NODE1 reads and displays the settings saved
in your
Scene file.  These settings are the same as the ones under Lightwave's
'Camera' and 'Record' menu.  Once you're satisfied with the changes
you've
made, just click the START button and NODE1 will automatically
configure and
start the ScreamerNET process.  After a few moments, NODE1 terminates
itself
to free more memory for rendering.  Simple!

NODE1 is also non-destructive.  It will not change your original Scene
file.
It is also Windows NT compatible since it is a 32bit program.


I hope you enjoy the program and if you have any questions or comments
or
ordering info
please send email to:

                [e-mail]

Thanks!

_______________________________________________________Bonfire____
- A fellow walks up to the drug counter and asks the pharmacist,
  "Do you have anything for complete loss of voice?"  The
  pharmacist replies, "Good morning, sir.  Can I help you?" -





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From: [e-mail] (Chewie8625)
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>>>From there, set the speed to 3000% (otherwise each
frame will be a second instead of 30th of a second).<<<

Or to make life a little simpler you could just set the duration of still
images to 1/30 of a second in the still image preferences.
-Emile Edwin Smith
-An about to graduate student in Visual Arts
-Need a janitor?

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Check out Wacom. They have realy nice pens for their pads and good drivers.

Al


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>   [e-mail] writes:
>  Yes, I guess maybe ILM could handle it if the money was there--but in TV it's
>  not.  Actually, now that I think of it, I don't think they handled Jumanji very
>  well (putting them up against the standards they set with Jurassic and others).

    1) TV:  making lots of animation FAST and on a small budget is an art in
    itself, something ILM may not be used to;

    2)  Finally saw Jumanji (for $2.00--ya gotta love 2nd run theatres!) and felt
    that something in the compositing was just not right, maybe the contrast?  The
    animals seemed more washed out than the background plates, and the "grain"
    was not a perfect match.

    My Favorite Effect:  the cop car folding in half while being sucked into the
    woods.

    Jumanji was covered, of course, in Cinefx-- recommended buy if you can find
    a back issue (and they are not hard to find).
>                        -=Fred=-

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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: LightWave 5.0 Ships Tomorrow
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Hi, live from the NAB floor at the AOL booth, here's a brief scoop on 5.0

$1495 for all platforms.
$495 to upgrade Intel/Alpha
$295 to upgrad Amiga

OpenGL in layout and modeler.
Screen redraws vastly sped up.
NURBs Modeling
Multiple textures on surface attributes
Improved IK
Fori's Power Texture (that guy, what a great addition).

I'll have a more detailed report later tonight.
--Brian

http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/
http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
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Bryant Reif wrote:
>
> Can anyone give me some info about the Snappy from Play?  I just checked out the samples from their web page
> and am having a hard time believing that those images were grabbed from video.
>
> 1.  How the hell does it get resolutions up to something like 1500x1200 from a video signal?
> 2.  How important is the quality of video?  Is it the most essential element?
> 3.  They say all you have to do is click the button and "presto" you have a flawless image.  How does this
> messure up to the actual use of the product experienced users?
> 4.  Can you grab a high quality image from a paused image source (VHS deck), or do you have to have really good
> timing?
>
> thanks.
> --
>
> Bryant Reif
> mailto:[e-mail]
> http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant

1. 1500x1200 resolution is possible if the Camera is capable of doing this. Many cameras can achieve this kind of resolution.
The only problem is that they can't record it to tape...
2. The better the quality of your video, the better the result of your capture.
3. Of course, getting Snappy won't make you an instant photographic genius. ;-)
4. Most consumer VHS tape recorders can't achieve a stable "pause" image. However, Snappy can capture an image on the fly.

By the way, the people who designed Snappy are the same who designed the Toaster from NewTek. When NewTek was developping the
Toaster between 1986-1990, they used to sell a device called Digi-View. That device had the same function as Snappy today.
The features were pretty much similar. Play uses the money they make off Snappy to develop new products like Trinity.

Jean-Eric



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3DS.  For example, it was used for
> > Jurassic Park, Jumanji, and currently Lost World (JP2).  Once again though, any
> > program worth its salt could be used.
>
> Tell that to SEGA, I don't think they would just use ANY program for their 3D stuff.
> They tend to lean towards Alias and 3DS. I would like to see you do a top selling game
> with Simply 3D or something like that.
> Sorry, but SEGA uses SoftImage for its game. Games like Indy 500 and Virtua Fighter were all modelled and animated using SI
game module. SI has special features like Polygon reductions to do the job.

>
> Johnny Mnemonic was far from being bad in the animation department. The animation
> matched exactly the look they were going for. It wasn't mean to look like reality,
> it was meant to look like cyberspace in the future as ...
> Jeff

Although it is true that Johnny Mnemonic had some pretty good effects, it still doesn't compare with what we see on a weekly
basis on shows like Star Trek Voyager. Check out the jump to warp sequences, they are all done in LW. Most of the good stuff
done on 3DS that we see on TV or at the movies aren't even rendered with 3DS anyway.

Jean-Eric


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From: Andrew Heidgerken <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Adobe Premier
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I beleive that you can set your still image preferances
inside Premiere so that the image duration is one frame.
Then load your images, plop them down and render.

Andrew Heidgerken



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From: [e-mail] (Bob Clary)
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Once again I see people getting emotional and calling each other names
over computer software. Come one guy's, it's a bunch of bits. This is
a pile of ephemeral ones and zeros. Isn't there more important stuff
to get worked up over.

The folks who say OS/2 sucks are not idiots, it does suck. The folks
who say Win95 sucks aren't morons it also sucks.

OS/2 sucks, Win95 sucks, MVS sucks, VMS sucks, MACs suck, PCs suck -
it all sucks.
-
This is what I get paid for. It's my job to take this sucky stuff and
make it  work for my clients. To me the best operating system is the
one I'm getting paid on.

OS/2 is great, Win95 is great, MVS is great, VMS is great, MACs are
great, PCs are great - it's all great.
-
When I've done my job!

Discussing technical aspects of one operating system over another is
an important part of evaluating and deciding on an operating system,
but it's not the whole picture.

The choice of products involves lot's of issues. While one operating
system may be technologically advanced over another, market share and
availability of apps may be an overiding factor. Other things like
existing expertise and legacy applications could be another issue.

---------------------
Bob Clary
Enterprise Consulting
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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: LWO format
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+-- [e-mail] writes:
| I've noticed something like this when patch modelling -- I think
| it's because I've got point order messed up or something, but a
| model that looks fine to Modeller and Powerview connects
| points/creates polys totally differently in Layout -- this new
| configuration then appears when loaded in Modeller too. It reminds
| me of the exploding vertices problem with some 3DS cracks and had
| me worried about my exe (which should be legal AFAIK).

There's any easy way to check your executable.  If it runs only
when the hardware key is present, it's an original.  If it runs
even when the hardware key is removed, it's a crack.  It is VERY
POSSIBLE that a cracked version of Modeler will exhibit EXACTLY
the behavior you describe.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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+-- Steph Greenberg <[e-mail]> writes:
| The question is this: is the PC now Lightwave's primary development
| platform? In other words, what will come first, the next PC version of LW
| or the Amiga version?   [...]
| In other words, is the Amiga now the platform that gets a port of LW,
| after everything is finished on the PC?

All the platforms are really equal from a development standpoint.  In
my office, for example, I have an SGI, Amiga, Intel, Alpha, MIPS and
a couple other machines all on tables arranged around the sides.
There's a coax cable that runs around the perimeter of the office
connected to each machine that lets them all share files as peers.
When I go to build a new version for NewTek to test or to ship, I
roll my chair from one machine to the next and type "make" on each.
When they are done, I collect the results, compress and encrypt them
and send them over the Internet to NewTek.

There's very little platform-specific source code, and most new
features can be added by writing platform-generic code and debugging
on whichever system is most convenient.  In those few cases where
some new feature requires platform-specific code, I always try to
design at the general level, in a way that will work for all the
platforms.  I write platform-specific code to a general interface
and then create the bulk of the feature using the generic interface.

Marketing is another issue.  We will tend to release PC and Alpha
versions before others, but not because of any development reason.
Modulo any platform-specific bugs, all the versions are done
pretty much simultaniously.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Pablo Lopez Zapico)
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Subject: Re: help with model please
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a ([e-mail]) wrote:
> I have a little problem. I am making a telefon receiver in lightwave
> modeler and a have made it from a box then i have use boolean first one from
> the front and then one from the top. It is perfect but now i want soft corners
> too. I have tried metamorf and soft but it is not helping much and i have
> tried more booleans but it is a hard way to work. can somebody tell me
> a better way.

> please send a e-mail to

> [e-mail]

> Thanx in advance



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                     Hi on you
then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Hammed Malik <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 18:16:40 -0400
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Jeff Jasper wrote:

> > As for people praising MAX, I too have heard the praise, but I've also heard
> > that it's buggy as hell.  I always take things like that though with a grain of
> > salt though so I'm not assuming it is.  Also, remember that 3DS people saying
> > that MAX is great holds about as much weight for me as LW people saying that LW
> > 5 is great does for you.
>
> I have heard it is very stable, even in Beta. From the tours they have been giving
> demoing it I have heard there were VERY few bugs that were apparent to people who used
> it or were Beta testing it. I got to play with an early Beta myself and can say it was
> rock solid and never crashed once when I put it to through the tests. I have heard
> more than a few Lightwavers saying how nice it is too and that NewTek better address
> it with 5.0.

Ok, I didn't really want to get into this but after seeing so many posts about MAX
being bug free, I went over to a friends place who has a beta copy of MAX to check
it out.  His version was dated Jan 18 so it might not be the latest version.  This
version seemed more like an alpha version than a beta.  Some examples:

- tried to change viewport to fill the screen - crash!
- set up a particle system, tried to render - crash!
- I'm thinking 'ok, maybe thats asking too much out of a beta release' so I make a
simple cube, try to render - crash!

In about half an hour that I used the program for, it crashed every time I tried to
do anything other than very simple stuff.  I hope Autodesk has fixed up MAX in the
three months since they released the version I used.

It really infuriates me, after trying MAX, to see people slamming LW for being
buggy.  I bought the pre-release PC version after using Amiga versions for few
years.  True, there were some bugs in the pre-release but none of them were critical
enough to make the program unusable.  Almost all the bugs in LW 4 pre-release had
workarounds.  I think a lot of people counting on this bug-infested MAX are going to
be a little disappointed when they find out it isn't as 'rock solid' as they
thought.  Every program in its first release has its share of bugs and MAX is no
different.

hammed


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                     Hi on you
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hammed
 Malik <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jeff Jasper wrote:
>
>> > As for people praising MAX, I too have heard the praise, but I've also heard
>> > that it's buggy as hell.  I always take things like that though with a grain of
>> > salt though so I'm not assuming it is.  Also, remember that 3DS people saying
>> > that MAX is great holds about as much weight for me as LW people saying that LW
>> > 5 is great does for you.
>>
>> I have heard it is very stable, even in Beta. From the tours they have been giving
>> demoing it I have heard there were VERY few bugs that were apparent to people who used
>> it or were Beta testing it. I got to play with an early Beta myself and can say it was
>> rock solid and never crashed once when I put it to through the tests. I have heard
>> more than a few Lightwavers saying how nice it is too and that NewTek better address
>> it with 5.0.
>
>Ok, I didn't really want to get into this but after seeing so many posts about MAX
>being bug free, I went over to a friends place who has a beta copy of MAX to check
>it out.  His version was dated Jan 18 so it might not be the latest version.  This
>version seemed more like an alpha version than a beta.  Some examples:
>
>- tried to change viewport to fill the screen - crash!
>- set up a particle system, tried to render - crash!
>- I'm thinking 'ok, maybe thats asking too much out of a beta release' so I make a
>simple cube, try to render - crash!
>
>In about half an hour that I used the program for, it crashed every time I tried to
>do anything other than very simple stuff.  I hope Autodesk has fixed up MAX in the
>three months since they released the version I used.
>
>It really infuriates me, after trying MAX, to see people slamming LW for being
>buggy.  I bought the pre-release PC version after using Amiga versions for few
>years.  True, there were some bugs in the pre-release but none of them were critical
>enough to make the program unusable.  Almost all the bugs in LW 4 pre-release had
>workarounds.  I think a lot of people counting on this bug-infested MAX are going to
>be a little disappointed when they find out it isn't as 'rock solid' as they
>thought.  Every program in its first release has its share of bugs and MAX is no
>different.
>
>hammed
>Ah ha ja




bnHammed Malik <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jeff Jasper wrote:
>
>> > As for people praising MAX, I too have heard the praise, but I've also heard
>> > that it's buggy as hell.  I always take things like that though with a grain of
>> > salt though so I'm not assuming it is.  Also, remember that 3DS people saying
>> > that MAX is great holds about as much weight for me as LW people saying that LW
>> > 5 is great does for you.
>>
>> I have heard it is very stable, even in Beta. From the tours they have been giving
>> demoing it I have heard there were VERY few bugs that were apparent to people who used
>> it or were Beta testing it. I got to play with an early Beta myself and can say it was
>> rock solid and never crashed once when I put it to through the tests. I have heard
>> more than a few Lightwavers saying how nice it is too and that NewTek better address
>> it with 5.0.
>
>Ok, I didn't really want to get into this but after seeing so many posts about MAX
>being bug free, I went over to a friends place who has a beta copy of MAX to check
>it out.  His version was dated Jan 18 so it might not be the latest version.  This
>version seemed more like an alpha version than a beta.  Some examples:
>
>- tried to change viewport to fill the screen - crash!
>- set up a particle system, tried to render - crash!
>- I'm thinking 'ok, maybe thats asking too much out of a beta release' so I make a
>simple cube, try to render - crash!
>
>In about half an hour that I used the program for, it crashed every time I tried to
>do anything other than very simple stuff.  I hope Autodesk has fixed up MAX in the
>three months since they released the version I used.
>
>It really infuriates me, after trying MAX, to see people slamming LW for being
>buggy.  I bought the pre-release PC version after using Amiga versions for few
>years.  True, there were some bugs in the pre-release but none of them were critical
>enough to make the program unusable.  Almost all the bugs in LW 4 pre-release had
>workarounds.  I think a lot of people counting on this bug-infested MAX are going to
>be a little disappointed when they find out it isn't as 'rock solid' as they
>thought.  Every program in its first release has its share of bugs and MAX is no
>different.
>
>hammed
>
 & ?Hello ansver this question::::;Why is am fuckHammed Malik
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jeff Jasper wrote:
>
>> > As for people praising MAX, I too have heard the praise, but I've also heard
>> > that it's buggy as hell.  I always take things like that though with a grain of
>> > salt though so I'm not assuming it is.  Also, remember that 3DS people saying
>> > that MAX is great holds about as much weight for me as LW people saying that LW
>> > 5 is great does for you.
>>
>> I have heard it is very stable, even in Beta. From the tours they have been giving
>> demoing it I have heard there were VERY few bugs that were apparent to people who used
>> it or were Beta testing it. I got to play with an early Beta myself and can say it was
>> rock solid and never crashed once when I put it to through the tests. I have heard
>> more than a few Lightwavers saying how nice it is too and that NewTek better address
>> it with 5.0.
>
>Ok, I didn't really want to get into this but after seeing so many posts about MAX
>being bug free, I went over to a friends place who has a beta copy of MAX to check
>it out.  His version was dated Jan 18 so it might not be the latest version.  This
>version seemed more like an alpha version than a beta.  Some examples:
>
>- tried to change viewport to fill the screen - crash!
>- set up a particle system, tried to render - crash!
>- I'm thinking 'ok, maybe thats asking too much out of a beta release' so I make a
>simple cube, try to render - crash!
>
>In about half an hour that I used the program for, it crashed every time I tried to
>do anything other than very simple stuff.  I hope Autodesk has fixed up MAX in the
>three months since they released the version I used.
>
>It really infuriates me, after trying MAX, to see people slamming LW for being
>buggy.  I bought the pre-release PC version after using Amiga versions for few
>years.  True, there were some bugs in the pre-release but none of them were critical
>enough to make the program unusable.  Almost all the bugs in LW 4 pre-release had
>workarounds.  I think a lot of people counting on this bug-infested MAX are going to
>be a little disappointed when they find out it isn't as 'rock solid' as they
>thought.  Every program in its first release has its share of bugs and MAX is no
>different.
>
>hammed
>Hello again fools
Hammed Malik <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jeff Jasper wrote:
>
>> > As for people praising MAX, I too have heard the praise, but I've also heard
>> > that it's buggy as hell.  I always take things like that though with a grain of
>> > salt though so I'm not assuming it is.  Also, remember that 3DS people saying
>> > that MAX is great holds about as much weight for me as LW people saying that LW
>> > 5 is great does for you.
>>
>> I have heard it is very stable, even in Beta. From the tours they have been giving
>> demoing it I have heard there were VERY few bugs that were apparent to people who used
>> it or were Beta testing it. I got to play with an early Beta myself and can say it was
>> rock solid and never crashed once when I put it to through the tests. I have heard
>> more than a few Lightwavers saying how nice it is too and that NewTek better address
>> it with 5.0.
>
>Ok, I didn't really want to get into this but after seeing so many posts about MAX
>being bug free, I went over to a friends place who has a beta copy of MAX to check
>it out.  His version was dated Jan 18 so it might not be the latest version.  This
>version seemed more like an alpha version than a beta.  Some examples:
>
>- tried to change viewport to fill the screen - crash!
>- set up a particle system, tried to render - crash!
>- I'm thinking 'ok, maybe thats asking too much out of a beta release' so I make a
>simple cube, try to render - crash!
>
>In about half an hour that I used the program for, it crashed every time I tried to
>do anything other than very simple stuff.  I hope Autodesk has fixed up MAX in the
>three months since they released the version I used.
>
>It really infuriates me, after trying MAX, to see people slamming LW for being
>buggy.  I bought the pre-release PC version after using Amiga versions for few
>years.  True, there were some bugs in the pre-release but none of them were critical
>enough to make the program unusable.  Almost all the bugs in LW 4 pre-release had
>workarounds.  I think a lot of people counting on this bug-infested MAX are going to
>be a little disappointed when they find out it isn't as 'rock solid' as they
>thought.  Every program in its first release has its share of bugs and MAX is no
>different.
>
>hammed






IS IT ANYONE WHO KNOWS WERE I CAN FIND A VOODOO HOMEPAGE   PLEASE
ANSWERHammed Malik <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jeff Jasper wrote:
>
>> > As for people praising MAX, I too have heard the praise, but I've also heard
>> > that it's buggy as hell.  I always take things like that though with a grain of
>> > salt though so I'm not assuming it is.  Also, remember that 3DS people saying
>> > that MAX is great holds about as much weight for me as LW people saying that LW
>> > 5 is great does for you.
>>
>> I have heard it is very stable, even in Beta. From the tours they have been giving
>> demoing it I have heard there were VERY few bugs that were apparent to people who used
>> it or were Beta testing it. I got to play with an early Beta myself and can say it was
>> rock solid and never crashed once when I put it to through the tests. I have heard
>> more than a few Lightwavers saying how nice it is too and that NewTek better address
>> it with 5.0.
>
>Ok, I didn't really want to get into this but after seeing so many posts about MAX
>being bug free, I went over to a friends place who has a beta copy of MAX to check
>it out.  His version was dated Jan 18 so it might not be the latest version.  This
>version seemed more like an alpha version than a beta.  Some examples:
>
>- tried to change viewport to fill the screen - crash!
>- set up a particle system, tried to render - crash!
>- I'm thinking 'ok, maybe thats asking too much out of a beta release' so I make a
>simple cube, try to render - crash!
>
>In about half an hour that I used the program for, it crashed every time I tried to
>do anything other than very simple stuff.  I hope Autodesk has fixed up MAX in the
>three months since they released the version I used.
>
>It really infuriates me, after trying MAX, to see people slamming LW for being
>buggy.  I bought the pre-release PC version after using Amiga versions for few
>years.  True, there were some bugs in the pre-release but none of them were critical
>enough to make the program unusable.  Almost all the bugs in LW 4 pre-release had
>workarounds.  I think a lot of people counting on this bug-infested MAX are going to
>be a little disappointed when they find out it isn't as 'rock solid' as they
>thought.  Every program in its first release has its share of bugs and MAX is no
>different.
>
>hammed
>








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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 18:16:40 -0400
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Jeff Jasper wrote:

> > As for people praising MAX, I too have heard the praise, but I've also heard
> > that it's buggy as hell.  I always take things like that though with a grain of
> > salt though so I'm not assuming it is.  Also, remember that 3DS people saying
> > that MAX is great holds about as much weight for me as LW people saying that LW
> > 5 is great does for you.
>
> I have heard it is very stable, even in Beta. From the tours they have been giving
> demoing it I have heard there were VERY few bugs that were apparent to people who used
> it or were Beta testing it. I got to play with an early Beta myself and can say it was
> rock solid and never crashed once when I put it to through the tests. I have heard
> more than a few Lightwavers saying how nice it is too and that NewTek better address
> it with 5.0.

Ok, I didn't really want to get into this but after seeing so many posts about MAX
being bug free, I went over to a friends place who has a beta copy of MAX to check
it out.  His version was dated Jan 18 so it might not be the latest version.  This
version seemed more like an alpha version than a beta.  Some examples:

- tried to change viewport to fill the screen - crash!
- set up a particle system, tried to render - crash!
- I'm thinking 'ok, maybe thats asking too much out of a beta release' so I make a
simple cube, try to render - crash!

In about half an hour that I used the program for, it crashed every time I tried to
do anything other than very simple stuff.  I hope Autodesk has fixed up MAX in the
three months since they released the version I used.

It really infuriates me, after trying MAX, to see people slamming LW for being
buggy.  I bought the pre-release PC version after using Amiga versions for few
years.  True, there were some bugs in the pre-release but none of them were critical
enough to make the program unusable.  Almost all the bugs in LW 4 pre-release had
workarounds.  I think a lot of people counting on this bug-infested MAX are going to
be a little disappointed when they find out it isn't as 'rock solid' as they
thought.  Every program in its first release has its share of bugs and MAX is no
different.

hammed


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The Joke about piracy claims by the maufacturers and distributors, is that if
there was no piracy, how else would the kids be able to train themselves in the
techniques of 3d rendering modelling and animation? Sure as hell wont see any
of that stuff being taught in schools. or Universities for that matter! MY Uni
is pleading sooooo poor,that we have to trash our old amigas years ago, and
learn how to use Photohop on the Graphic design departments Macs for Gods
sake!! We have a genereation here in AUstralia that wouldnt have learnt and
gotten jobs using software if it wasnt for them lovable varmints the Crackers
and Hackers!! I wish that there was another way around it, but lets face it,
with courses being offered for less than 2 months at slected colleges at
exhorbitant prices, how else is the High-school neo-nate gonna learn and get on
in life?


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From: [e-mail] (Blake Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
Date: 16 Apr 1996 16:16:43 GMT
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A NAB baiting Tactic?
Just spoke w/ NewTek, it seems there was a problem w/ documentation
printing or whatever.   LW 5.0 IS NOT SHIPPING ...it's NewTek what did you
expect?
Look for 5.0 in '97

Bp

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW snubbed again!
Date: 16 Apr 1996 17:16:33 GMT
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In article <4kuk66$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Once again, in the latest PC Computing magazine,
>Lightwave is totally ignored.

My guess - that the reviewer(s)/editor(s) called NewTek, left
a message, and their call was never returned.  :-)

- John


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In article <4kv7se$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>alt.stranahan....
>
>Sure, I like that...

Alphabetically, it would fall near alt.strange.days and
alt.stupid.religious.discussions, and not far from alt.startrek.trill...

- John


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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I have done this type of thing in several different ways. The first, and in
most cases the best, way to do this is to go into the bevel using the "b" key
and just do a VERY VERY small amount of bevel on the object. If you were using
an inch scale, then have a setting of somewhere around .05in on both the inset
and the offset. If this seems a bit too big or even too small, no problem,
because you can just do an undo and changethe settings a bit. Another and more
harder way would be to ONLY sellect the top/bottom polygons or the side
polygons or even the inward protruding polygons such as if you did a boolean
that made a hole and then do a bevel. As far as using the Metaform, you had a
good idea, but you need to be aware that to get a really good Metaform shape
out of the thing, you need to go into another layer and make a box that is
almost the same size and shape but slightly bigger in one or two dirrection
and have it placed right where you want to have the part of the object get
smoothed. Then FLIP the layers and do a "S Drill Slice" on the thing. You
would need to repeat this several times untill you got the desired effect and
it would look very nice but take you a very long time to get the results that
you might want...............md

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I'm sorry, but I forgot to post the orriginal message that I was responding
to. The message I was responding to was for the guy who wanted to know about
smoothing his Teflon object. This was my response:

On Tue 16-Apr-1996 10:05a, Mark Dunakin wrote:
MD> I have done this type of thing in several different ways. The first, and
MD> in most cases the best, way to do this is to go into the bevel using the
MD> "b" key and just do a VERY VERY small amount of bevel on the object. If
MD> you were using an inch scale, then have a setting of somewhere around
MD> .05in on both the inset and the offset. If this seems a bit too big or
MD> even too small, no problem, because you can just do an undo and changethe
MD> settings a bit. Another and more harder way would be to ONLY sellect the
MD> top/bottom polygons or the side polygons or even the inward protruding
MD> polygons such as if you did a boolean that made a hole and then do a
MD> bevel. As far as using the Metaform, you had a good idea, but you need to
MD> be aware that to get a really good Metaform shape out of the thing, you
MD> need to go into another layer and make a box that is almost the same size
MD> and shape but slightly bigger in one or two dirrection and have it placed
MD> right where you want to have the part of the object get smoothed. Then
MD> FLIP the layers and do a "S Drill Slice" on the thing. You would need to
MD> repeat this several times untill you got the desired effect and it would
MD> look very nice but take you a very long time to get the results that you
MD> might want...............md

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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: You wanna Know the sad part about piracy?
Date: 16 Apr 1996 18:17:05 GMT
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In <4l0a1m$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (AJAKUTY) writes:

>The Joke about piracy claims by the maufacturers and distributors, is that if
>there was no piracy, how else would the kids be able to train themselves in the
>techniques of 3d rendering modelling and animation? Sure as hell wont see any
>of that stuff being taught in schools. or Universities for that matter! MY Uni

Hmm...I beg to differ. MANY universities have 3d softwarew..that's why i
looked foward to University so much...take a class in 3d graphics..sure
class is only 4 weeks long..but then you take another class..etc..you
plan ahgead and beat the system..for example many differrent classes ue
alias here...but each class professor lets us do what we pleqse..so each
quarter we sign up for classes which give us access to teh SGI computers...

Piracy is no excuse..work damn it!!! I did..i worked at minimum wages and
still do, in order to finance my hobby...i just got a job at teh
school working in the sgi lab..ha! more access to SGI computers and LW
SGI too...see it's planning...it's there for the taking..you just have to
manipulate the system..hey get a teachers attention to get an independant
study...then you can get access to other university equipment...like i
said if your university is so poor that ti doesn;t have the tools..that's
not the programmers fault!

If your school doesn;t have the good equipment ..go elsewhere...yea
school costs alot..i owe and owe and owe..but isn;t that what education
is all about (sarcasm)...take government loans..heck that's how i got my
PC system.

But there is no excuse for piracy just cuz your poor and want the
powerful stuff...TRUESPACE is only $90 go learn on that then..that's a
beginners tool :).

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Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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Hi
has anybody got any news from NAB yet?

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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
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Can anyone else confirm this?


--
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Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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>         1) TV:  making lots of animation FAST and on a small budget is an art in
>         itself, something ILM may not be used to;

I think they could do a weekly, just not on the budget people would want to pay.

>         2)  Finally saw Jumanji (for $2.00--ya gotta love 2nd run theatres!) and felt
>         that something in the compositing was just not right, maybe the contrast?  The
>         animals seemed more washed out than the background plates, and the "grain"
>         was not a perfect match.

Checked out a bunch of stills, it looks good to me. People said they had problems with
the compositing in Jurassic Park too, Yet I don't see many other people doing that kind
of quality work. I still try and look for the white lines when I watch it, and can't seem
to catch it.

>         My Favorite Effect:  the cop car folding in half while being sucked into the
>         woods.

Yes, I really liked this shot also, although I thought the roots looked a little too CG.

>         Jumanji was covered, of course, in Cinefx-- recommended buy if you can find
>         a back issue (and they are not hard to find).
> >                        -=Fred=-

It was also covered in the January 96 issue of CGW, nice picture of the lion on the cover.
Damn I want hair particles that nice!

Jeff

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Blake Porter wrote:
> A NAB baiting Tactic?
> Just spoke w/ NewTek, it seems there was a problem w/ documentation
> printing or whatever.   LW 5.0 IS NOT SHIPPING ...it's NewTek what did you
> expect?
> Look for 5.0 in '97

I find it hard to believe that a problem with the documentation would delay
them that long. Can anyone else confirm this? From the sound of the features,
Newtek really worked their buns off to stay competitive> Now explain this
metanurbs thing again... :)

Jeff

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******************* What's new in LightWave 3D 5.0 ***************************


There have been many additions to LightWave 3D. In fact there have been
nearly 200 new features added! Here is a quick glance at some of the
highlights.

########################## Modeler #####################################

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, and Smoothing

* METANURBS Modeling Tool. This new tool combines the ease and flexibility
of polygonal modeling with the power and organic feel of NURBS modeling.

* Metaballs Modeling Plug In.  Powerful Organic modeling!

* Metaform2 Plug In.  Enhancment to the orginal metaform which allows you to
metaform polygons with more than four points.

*New Spline Modeling Tools

* Surface editing in Modeler.

* Tablet Support.  Allows absolute versus relative input devices.

* Randomization for Bevel and Array tools.

* Data sharing between Layout and Modeler.  Import and Export are Back!

* Enhanced True Type Support

* Massive Redraw Speed Enhancements.

* Lasso Style Zoom


######################### Layout ###################################

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Includes support for up to 8
interactive lights   (Distant,  Point, or Spot). Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, Outline Only, and
Smoothing

*** Infinite Surface Layering! ***

* Alpha channels allowed on image mapping.

* New Cel Animation Features for Cel edges and Cel rendering. Make 3D look
hand drawn!

* MetaMation: A new organic animation plug-in that automatically smoothes
an object with Metaform before each frames' render.

* Bone Enhancements including, Joint Compensation, and Muscle Flexing.

* Inverse Kinematics improvements including active goals and goal
strengths.

* Multiple Target Object Morphing from one envelope.

* New Lens Flare modes including, central ring color and size
modifications, and star filter enhancements.

* Many User Interface Enhancements

* Color Swatches in RGB fields

* Interactive Camera Zoom Level

* Interactive Light Cone Angle

* Front Face View of objects for faster redraw and cleaner interface

* Color BKG images

* Render Sample Cube.

* Copy surfaces from rendered samples.

* New Plug In classes including Pixel Filter and Special Buffers for new
rendering and shader effects.

* Project images through spot lights.

* User definable Texture Map anti-aliasing.

* AutoKey Create mode for ultra-fast keyframe set up.

* Open GL Previews.

* Tiling and Alpha Channel options for Texture Maps.

* Dolly, Truck, and Pan capability allowing movement along any item's
axis.

* Effector: Allows a null object to interactively deform a mesh.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Plug In features included with LightWave 5.0 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Equation
Lwpanels
Globsave
Effector: The Motion plug-in Effector
InheritRotation
JitterMotion
MathMotion
ParentBone
ParentCamera
ParentLight
ObjList
ObjectSequence
Effector: Displacement Map Plug-in
LazyPoints
Metamation
Blotch
CelShader
Checker
ColorCube
HSLColorCube
NormalColor
SurfBlurShader
SurfFuzzShader
Weave
ZOR    (Plug-in file: Zor.p)
BlurFilter
Convolve
Emboss
Gamma
Negative
NightVision
NTSC_Legalize
PAL_Legalize
PENNELLO
Sepia
SpecialBuffer
SurfBlurFilter
SurfFuzzFilter
VidNoise
Vignette
Watermark
AVI Savers
Image Loaders/Savers

----- The formats HIIPSave.p allows you to load and save in Layout are: ----
Alias(.als), BMP(.bmp), Cineon(.cin), IFF(.iff), JPEG(.jpg), PCX(.pcx),
Pict(.pic), Pixar(.pxr), QRT(.qrt), Rendition(.6rn), SGI(.rgb), Sun(.sun),
TIFF(.tif), Targa32(.tga), Toaster(.vti), Wavefront(.rla), XWIndows(.xwd),
YUV(.yuv)

Storybrd.p
FilmExpand
4XStoryboard
ImageList
MotionDump
AllBGLayers
Arn_Calculate
BoundingBox
Cage
Calculate
Center
Center1D
CenterScale
CenterStretch
CutCurves
Envelopes
Gear
ImpSurf3D
Julienne
LightSwarm
LoadFonts
MathMotion
NextEmptyLayer
PathToMotion
Platonic
Plot1D
Plot2D
PointCenter
PolyEdgeShaper
New Primitives
Donut
Wedge
Spline Cage
Random Points
Gear
RandPricks
RotateAnyAxis
RotateHPB
SceneToVRML
Stipple
SuperQuadric
Symmetrize
TextCompose
TextCurve
Throw
Toroid
Translator3DOptions
VRMLAutoSave
VRMLSave
Wedge
Add-Metaball
AutoPatcher
AutoPatcherMK
BGConform
Converge_Points
Fast-Triple-Fan
Fast-Triple-Traverse
Make_DoubleSided
MakeSpikey
Metaballs
MetaFormPlus
Points2Polys
Power-Texture
PowerView
RandPoints
Reduce-Polygons
Rest-On-Ground
Rotate-About-Normal
Rotate-Arbitrary-Axis
Rotate-To-Ground
Rotate-To-Object
Spherize
Squarize
Translator3D-Export
TriangleFan
TriangleStrip

(posted by Dreux; Sysop ProTempore)

******************************************************************************
*  Chuck Baker  -  Sysop              *  TekWorld:  NewTek Tech Support BBS  *
*  Technical Support Online Services  *  telnet address:     bbs.newtek.com  *
*  NewTek, Inc.                       *  modem ports:          913-271-9299  *
******************************************************************************

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Adam Ives Chrystie wrote:

> But there is no excuse for piracy just cuz your poor and want the
> powerful stuff...TRUESPACE is only $90 go learn on that then..that's a
> beginners tool :).

And the demo version can be freely downloaded from their web site at...

http://www.caligari.com/

You can do everything the full version does except save objects and render higher
than 350x300.  If you are just starting out in 3D, you can learn a lot about the
field from this program.   OR, if you want to learn LW, find someone with a
toaster.  There are a lot of them out there.

> --
> ----------------------------------
> Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
> Cinema/Video Major, Senior
> University Of California at Santa Cruz

--

Bryant Reif
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From: [e-mail] (Michael B. Comet)
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In a previous article [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie) said:

> * METANURBS Modeling Tool. This new tool combines the ease and flexibility
> of polygonal modeling with the power and organic feel of NURBS modeling.
> * Metaballs Modeling Plug In.  Powerful Organic modeling!
> * Massive Redraw Speed Enhancements.
> *** Infinite Surface Layering! ***
> * Project images through spot lights.
>* Dolly, Truck, and Pan capability allowing movement along any item's
axis.

        This alone is awesome.  Especially the last.  I found setting
up hierarchies and stuff so annoying without "Imagine-like" local
transformations.

        Sounds like lots of new fun stuff to play with...

mbc



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                NAB-001
CONTACT:        Jim Parsons (NewTek)    RELEASE DATE:  April 15, 1996
                [phone]
                Hollie Wendt (Communications Consultant)
                [phone]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°NEWTEK RELEASES EXPANSIVE VIDEO TOASTER UPGRADE°°°°°°°°°°°°°
Now Provides More Than 600 Visual Effects And New Productivity Tools
National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), Las Vegas, NV -- NewTek, Inc.
today announced a new release of its Video Toaster Television-Studio-In-A-Box(
that allows users to sequence and playback graphic elements in real time. New
features include enhanced integration between the system's production tools to
improve efficiency and ease of use. The Video Toaster is used by both
professional and home users for business and entertainment video production.
According to Tim Jenison, Chairman and Founder of NewTek, "Video is the new
literacy; it makes communication clear, concise, and interesting. With this
announcement, we're making even more of that power available not only to
television studios but to businesses, schools, and other organizations that
have professional communication needs on a shoe-string budget."
Video Toaster 4.1 includes major upgrades to all nine software applications in
its video production suite, as well as a new clipboard-like functionality that
allows users to more productively integrate actions such as accessing live
video frames and adding text. Key individual software applications include:
* LightWave 3D( 4.0, an animation tool for creating three-dimensional photo
realistic graphics. Video Toaster owners have the option to add LightWave 5.0
to their system
-- more --

NewTek Releases Expansive Video Toaster Upgrade                         2/2/2
for $295. This new release includes more than 100 new features (see separate
release for details), headed by the implementation of MetaNURBS(, a modeling
tool that combines the power of splines with the ease of polygon modeling.
* The new video switcher provides the ability to configure groups of the most
commonly used effects, which then become available at the touch of a button.
Additionally, the video switcher now allows users to create a storyboard from
video inputs and graphic elements such as still frames, character generated
text, and effects, and play the storyboard in real time.
* The character generator (ToasterCG(), a tool for adding text to video, ships
with 100 new Adobe PostScript( fonts, which can be rotated, scaled, and
sheered. ToasterCG now has a plug-in architecture that features a spell
checker and other utilities.
* ToasterPaint(, a 24-bit video graphics tool, now offers two new painting
modes, a new airbrush, full-screen implementation, and better integration with
other Video Toaster applications.
Nonlinear, Tapeless Editing With Broadcast Quality Through The Flyer
Through the recently introduced Flyer add-on card, Video Toaster users can
instantly access and edit clips located anywhere on video hard drives, with
quality that meets the NTSC RS-170A specification for broadcast-quality video.
VTASC(, NewTek's proprietary data compression algorithm, makes the Flyer the
first nonlinear video editor to meet this standard directly from the hard
drive.
The Video Toaster: A Television-Studio-In-A-Box
The Video Toaster provides all the tools necessary to produce
broadcast-quality video at a price that is affordable to home users, while
enabling professional video producers to maximize production quality within a
fixed budget. The Video Toaster includes the broadest range of video
production tools available in a single product, including video switching,
character generation, and 2D and 3D graphic tools. The signature ability of
the Video Toaster is overlaying animated video transitions across the screen
in real time; no other product offers this capability in the price range of
the Video Toaster.
-- more --
NewTek Releases Expansive Video Toaster Upgrade
                               3/3/3
The Video Toaster is a combination of hardware and software that includes ten
video production applications. Its unique design of hardware can be
reconfigured by each software release, allowing NewTek to provide customers
with dramatic new capabilities with each upgrade. Currently running on Amiga(
workstations, the Video Toaster is also in development for versions on
additional platforms.
Availability and Pricing
The Video Toaster release 4.1 is now available immediately through more than
200 dealers and 25 distributors worldwide. U.S. list price for the Video
Toaster 4.1 software upgrades is $549. The complete Video Toaster package is
priced at $2395.
NewTek, Inc. is the leader in providing full-featured video editing and
special effects tools at a price that allows anyone to produce professional
video and graphics.  The company's products are used worldwide on projects
from home video to feature film and have won awards for television shows such
as Babylon 5 and Star Trek.  NewTek headquarters are located in Topeka, Kansas
in the middle of the Silicon Prairie.
-- END --
Video Toaster is a registered trademark of NewTek, Inc. LightWave 3D,
Television-Studio-In-A-Box, Flyer, ToasterCG, ToasterPaint, VTASC, and
MetaNURBS are trademarks of NewTek, Inc.  Amiga is a trademark of Amiga
Technologies. PostScript is a trademark of Adobe .

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                NAB-002
CONTACT:        Jim Parsons (NewTek)    RELEASE DATE:  April 15, 1996
                [phone]
                Hollie Wendt (Communications Consultant)
                [phone]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°NEWTEK ANNOUNCES LIGHTWAVE VERSION 5.0°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
Featuring Over 100 New Features and Breakthrough Tools for 3D Animation
National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), Las Vegas, NV -- NewTek, Inc.
today announced a new release of its LightWave 3D animation system. LightWave
3D version 5.0 allows users to view solid objects and lighting effects
interactively as animation is created. Other new high-end tools simplify
creation and animation of smooth, flowing objects. LightWave 3D can be used
independently or as a part of the NewTek Video Toaster(
Television-Studio-In-A-Box( to create ultra-realistic animation previously
available only on much higher-priced systems.
According to Tim Jenison, Chairman and Founder of NewTek, "LightWave 3D 5.0
introduces the key feature of an OpenGL( implementation. OpenGL tremendously
enhances the user's ability to meet the need of projects where success is
dependent upon realistic animation, such as James Bond's Goldeneye, Babylon 5,
Space: Above and Beyond, and Star Trek."
Through OpenGL, LightWave 3D users see objects and lights in shaded views in
real time. The level of interactivity provided by OpenGL drastically reduces
the guesswork traditionally involved in the creation of 3D animation.
LightWave 3D is the only product to break the polygon/spline barrier with the
introduction of MetaNURBS(. MetaNURBS performs real time transformations
between
-- more --

NewTek Announces LightWave 3D Version 5.0
                                     2/2/2
polygons and splines, enhancing the user's ability to create organic (smooth
flowing) 3D objects. Polygons are easier to use than splines but make it
difficult to achieve certain Splines, though a more complicated approach to
modeling, are a more powerful modeling technique. MetaNURBS is the first tool
to effectively utilize the strengths of both techniques making it easier than
ever to create stunning 3D models.
With MetaBalls, another powerful modeling feature, spheres can be utilized to
quickly approximate complex shapes. The MetaBalls function automatically
generates a skin based upon that approximation that will transform the rough
shape into a complex 3D model. This is particularly effective when creating
animals and characters. NewTek is the only vendor providing this high-end
feature in the price range of LightWave 3D.
In addition to the OpenGL implementation, MetaNURBS, and MetaBalls, LightWave
3D 5.0 includes well over 100 new features that enhance the user's ability to
create visual effects (see attached page for feature list).

LightWave 3D ¾ Photo-realistic Animation
LightWave 3D is the most powerful animation system available in its price
range, offering features such as full ray tracing, motion blur, depth of
field, variable lens settings, and many other special effects that allow users
to create stunning images and animations.  At $1495, LightWave 3D has the most
comprehensive feature set of any 3D program, providing workstation performance
at a PC price.
Due to its unparalleled rendering quality and ease of use, LightWave 3D is the
artist's choice for creating special effects for popular televisions shows,
feature films, and commercials, as well as graphics for corporate videos,
video games, print, and much more.  LightWave 3D is available for Windows 95(
and Windows NT( on Intel, DEC Alpha(, and MIPS(, as well as Silicon Graphics
and Amiga( workstations.
"LightWave 3D has completely changed the way we work; we can turn out up to 60
photo-realistic effect shots each week where we had estimated turning out only
20 or 30," said Tim McHugh, founder of Area 51 Visual Effects (Pasadena, CA).
"Frankly, Space: Above and Beyond would not have bee possible without
LightWave 3D."
-- more --
NewTek Announces LightWave 3D Version 5.0
                                     3/3/3
Availability and Pricing
LightWave 3D 5.0 is available through more than 200 dealers and 25
distributors worldwide. U.S. list price for LightWave 3D 5.0 upgrade is $495.
The complete system is priced at $1495.
NewTek, Inc. is the leader in providing full-featured video editing and
special effects tools at a price that allows anyone to produce professional
video and graphics.  The company's products are used worldwide on projects
from home video to feature film and have won awards for television shows such
as Babylon 5 and Star Trek.  NewTek headquarters are located in Topeka, Kansas
in the middle of the Silicon Prairie.
-- END --
Video Toaster is a registered trademark of NewTek, Inc. LightWave 3D,
Television-Studio-In-A-Box, and MetaNURBS are trademarks of NewTek, Inc.
Amiga is a trademark of Amiga Technologies. Windows 95 and Windows NT are
trademarks of Microsoft Corporation. DEC Alpha is a trademark of Digital
Equipment Corporation. MIPS is a trademark of Silicon Graphics, Inc. UNIX is a
registered trademark of Unix Labs.

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                NAB-003
CONTACT:        Jim Parsons (NewTek)    RELEASE DATE:  April 15, 1996
                [phone]
                Hollie Wendt (Communications Consultant)
                [phone]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°NEWTEK DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIP WITH APPLE AND SUN°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
Best-Of-Breed Trio To Develop Digital Video Tools
National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), Las Vegas, NV -- NewTek, Inc.
today announced that NewTek, Apple Computer, Inc., and Sun Microsystems
Computer Company (SMCC) are exploring a relationship to develop a broad range
of digital 3D animation and video production tools.  The target audience for
these tools will be the largest group of digital content creators, including
professionals in feature and broadcast video, that purchase tools primarily in
the $ 3000 to $ 30,000 range.

According to Tim Jenison, Chairman and Founder of NewTek, "This collaboration
would unite the companies that currently lead the desktop video, desktop
graphics, and Internet server markets.  The resulting technology opportunities
will enable us to create a new era of high-quality, low-cost, easy to use
products for digital media creation that will benefit audiences from event
videographers, to New York boardrooms, to Hollywood studios."
According to NewTek, technology sharing could be a key ingredient of the
relationship.   NewTek will support Apple's QuickDraw( 3D format for viewing
changes to graphic objects in real-time.  Used in conjunction with LightWave
3D( from NewTek, users of QuickDraw 3D gain a real-time shading capability
that supports the creation of highly realistic animation.  NewTek will also
utilize Sun's Java( development language, which has been positioned as the
"Internet language" based on its strengths in building applications and its
ability to download software across a network in a secure manner.
-- more --

NewTek Developing Relationship with Apple and Sun
                             2/2/2
Use of Java enables the development of digital media creation products
designed for the Internet environment.
Additional technology sharing could include NewTek's support for Apple's
QuickTime( VR, use of NewTek tools by Sun and Apple to create OEM and turnkey
solutions, exploration of future technologies in video production and related
opportunities, and various co-marketing and sales activities.
New Apple Port
One initial outcome of the relationship will be the port of NewTek's LightWave
3D 5.0 animation system to Apple PowerMac( computers.  The port will bring
broadcast quality animation to a wide variety of business and educational
applications, enhancing the ability of users to communicate ideas visually.
"Macintosh systems are leading platforms for creative applications in all
markets -- education, business, publication, and entertainment," said Satjiv
S. Chahil, Senior Vice President of Corporate Marketing for Apple.  "NewTek's
product for the Macintosh platform promises many exciting applications in the
area of digital content production."
Developing with Sun's Java
Sun brings a large installed base in commercial markets, where visualization
is a key component, to the relationship, as well as the Java development
language.  NewTek's choice of Java as a development language will take full
advantage of the capabilities of the UltraSPARC( workstation and Ultra 1
Creator 3D Graphics Accelerator.  Java's write-once-run-everywhere capability,
along with its easy accessibility, have propelled the software and Internet
communities to embrace it as a de facto standard for writing applications for
complex networks.
"We expect that a technology-sharing relationship with NewTek will yield yet
another explosion of Internet applications, this time in creating digital
media tools.  We're excited that a company such as NewTek, who has been
involved in the creation of productions such as Star Trek, Babylon 5, The
Simpsons, and Goldeneye, is embracing the Java technology,"  said Carl Wolf,
Vice President Business Development for Sun.
-- more --
NewTek Developing Relationship with Apple and Sun
                             3/3/3
LightWave 3D ¾ Photo-realistic Animation
LightWave 3D carries on the price/performance standard started by the Video
Toaster(.  At $1495, LightWave 3D has the most comprehensive feature set of
any 3D program, providing workstation performance at a PC price.  Due to its
unparalleled rendering quality and ease of use, LightWave 3D is the artist's
choice for creating special effects for popular televisions shows, feature
films, and commercials, as well as graphics for corporate videos, video games,
print, and much more.  LightWave 3D is available for Windows 95( and Windows
NT( on Intel, DEC Alpha(, and MIPS(, as well as Silicon Graphics and Amiga(
workstations.
Apple Computer, Inc., a recognized innovator in the information industry and
leader in multimedia technologies, creates powerful solutions based on easy to
use personal computers, servers, peripherals, software, and personal digital
assistants.  Headquartered in Cupertino, California, Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL)
develops, manufactures, licenses and markets solutions, products, technologies
and services for business, education, consumer, entertainment, scientific &
engineering and government customers in over 140 countries.
Sun Microsystems Computer Company is a world leader in the design, manufacture
and sale of network computing systems and is a division of Sun Microsystems,
Inc.  Recognized for quality and innovation, the company's SPARC( workstations
and multiprocessing servers each hold the No. 1 UNIX(  marketshare position.
These systems are used primarily by businesses, educational institutions and
governments worldwide for technical, commercial, industrial, and software
development.
NewTek, Inc. is the leader in providing full-featured video editing and
special effects tools at a price that allows anyone to produce professional
video and graphics.  The company's products are used worldwide on projects
from home video to feature film and have won awards for television shows such
as Babylon 5 and Star Trek.  NewTek headquarters are located in Topeka, Kansas
in the middle of the Silicon Prairie.
-- END --
Video Toaster is a registered trademark of NewTek, Inc. LightWave 3D is a
trademark of NewTek, Inc.  QuickTime VR is a registered trademark of Apple
Computer. PowerMac and QuickDraw 3D are trademarks of Apple Computer. Java,
UltraSPARC, and SPARC are trademarks of Sun Microsystems. Amiga is a trademark
of Amiga Technologies. Windows 95 and Windows NT are trademarks of Microsoft
Corporation. DEC Alpha is a trademark of Digital Equipment Corporation. MIPS
is a trademark of Silicon Graphics, Inc. UNIX is a registered trademark of
Unix Labs.

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From: [e-mail] (Steve)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
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in the begining there was Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>. And he did writeth:

>I suggest everyone check out http:\\www.ktx.com
>in the gallery they have MUCH nicer renderings than what is available
>here.

Some where, some weren't. That buggy looks very similar, does it come with
3dsmax? That 1st picture is great though (when you first go to ktx.com)

-Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
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in the begining there was [e-mail] (Tim Krego). And he did writeth:
>On Sun, 14 Apr 96 23:44:40 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>>So where is this buggy4.jpg I'd be VERY interested in seeing it.  (I'm assuming
>>that's not it above)
>
>Don't bother. Buggy4.jpg is nothing special and doesn't show the true
>quality of MAX. I've seen much more realistic renders from LW, 3DS,
>and MAX.

So can you point me towards some more realistic 3ds max, or 3dstudio renderings?

-Steve

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From: [e-mail](William A. Mendez )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: 5.0 new features
Date: 16 Apr 1996 22:28:05 GMT
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SOURCE: Grue, a NewTek slave on IRC


What's new in LightWave 3D 5.0

There have been many additions to LightWave 3D. In fact there have been
nearly 200 new features added! Here is a quick glance at some of the
highlights.

Modeler

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, and Smoothing

* METANURBS Modeling Tool. This new tool combines the ease and
flexibility
of polygonal modeling with the power and organic feel of NURBS
modeling.

* Metaballs Modeling Plug In.  Powerful Organic modeling!

* Metaform2 Plug In.  Enhancment to the orginal metaform which allows
you to
metaform polygons with more than four points.

*New Spline Modeling Tools

* Surface editing in Modeler.

* Tablet Support.  Allows absolute versus relative input devices.

* Randomization for Bevel and Array tools.

* Data sharing between Layout and Modeler.  Import and Export are Back!

*Enhanced True Type Support

* Massive Redraw Speed Enhancements.

* Lasso Style Zoom


Layout

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Includes support for up
to 8
interactive lights   (Distant,  Point, or Spot). Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, Outline Only,
and
Smoothing

*** Infinite Surface Layering! ***

* Alpha channels allowed on image mapping.

* New Cel Animation Features for Cel edges and Cel rendering. Make 3D
look
hand drawn!

* MetaMation: A new organic animation plug-in that automatically
smoothes
an object with Metaform before each frames' render.

* Bone Enhancements including, Joint Compensation, and Muscle Flexing.

* Inverse Kinematics improvements including active goals and goal
strengths.

* Multiple TargetFrom: [e-mail](William A. Mendez )
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SOURCE: Grue, a NewTek slave on IRC


What's new in LightWave 3D 5.0

There have been many additions to LightWave 3D. In fact there have been
nearly 200 new features added! Here is a quick glance at some of the
highlights.

Modeler

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, and Smoothing

* METANURBS Modeling Tool. This new tool combines the ease and
flexibility
of polygonal modeling with the power and organic feel of NURBS
modeling.

* Metaballs Modeling Plug In.  Powerful Organic modeling!

* Metaform2 Plug In.  Enhancment to the orginal metaform which allows
you to
metaform polygons with more than four points.

*New Spline Modeling Tools

* Surface editing in Modeler.

* Tablet Support.  Allows absolute versus relative input devices.

* Randomization for Bevel and Array tools.

* Data sharing between Layout and Modeler.  Import and Export are Back!

*Enhanced True Type Support

* Massive Redraw Speed Enhancements.

* Lasso Style Zoom


Layout

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Includes support for up
to 8
interactive lights   (Distant,  Point, or Spot). Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, Outline Only,
and
Smoothing

*** Infinite Surface Layering! ***

* Alpha channels allowed on image mapping.

* New Cel Animation Features for Cel edges and Cel rendering. Make 3D
look
hand drawn!

* MetaMation: A new organic animation plug-in that automatically
smoothes
an object with Metaform before each frames' render.

* Bone Enhancements including, Joint Compensation, and Muscle Flexing.

* Inverse Kinematics improvements including active goals and goal
strengths.

* Multiple TargetnDump
AllBGLayers
Arn_Calculate
BoundingBox
Cage
Calculate
Center
Center1D
CenterScale
CenterStretch
CutCurves
Envelopes
Gear
ImpSurf3D
Julienne
LightSwarm
LoadFonts
MathMotion
NextEmptyLayer
PathToMotion
Platonic
Plot1D
Plot2D
PointCenter
PolyEdgeShaper
New Primitives
Donut
        Wedge
Spline Cage
Random Points
Gear

RandPricks
RotateAnyAxis
RotateHPB
SceneToVRML
Stipple
SuperQuadric
Symmetrize
TextCompose
TextCurve
Throw
Toroid
Translator3DOptions
VRMLAutoSave
VRMLSave
Wedge
Add-Metaball
AutoPatcher
AutoPatcherMK
BGConform
Converge_Points
Fast-Triple-Fan
Fast-Triple-Traverse
Make_DoubleSided
MakeSpikey
Metaballs
MetaFormPlus
Points2Polys
Power-Texture
PowerView
RandPoints
Reduce-Polygons
Rest-On-Ground
Rotate-About-Normal
Rotate-Arbitrary-Axis
Rotate-To-Ground
Rotate-To-Object
Spherize
Squarize
Translator3D-Export
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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
Date: 16 Apr 1996 20:37:39 -0400
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Hmm, I just called customer service, and they said it is shipping.  My
guess is that if you place an order, you can expect to get it in 2-3
weeks, which is pretty reasonable.

I don't believe they announced shipping without printed manuals.
--Brian
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
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On Tue 16-Apr-1996  6:18p, Adam Ives Chrystie wrote:
AC> From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
AC> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
AC> Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
AC>

AC> Can anyone else confirm this?


AC> --
AC> ----------------------------------
AC> Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
AC> Cinema/Video Major, Senior
AC> University Of California at Santa Cruz
-------------------
I just ordered mine today! :) I'll have it in my grubby little hands in four
to six weeks. I can't wait. They ARE taking orders today and all this week you
can also get a LW T-shirt or hat. I like to go fishing, so I took the hat.
 ALSO!!! I just got my LWpro book today!!!!! Finally! And it's true, it was
worth the wait as far as I'm concerned..........I just talked to Newtek and
they said that they should have all the new specs on LW on the boards by
today..............md :)

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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I went out and got Painter 4.0 today. So I hope it works for me. It looks
pretty darn awesome from what i've seen of it so far. Thanx for all the tips
and stuff. .........md :)

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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On Sun 14-Apr-1996  3:57p, Bruce Branit wrote:
BB> Mark Dunakin wrote:
BB> >
BB> > Say does anyone know how you make that star field that is shaped like a
BB> big
BB> > ball. I can make a ball of dots that is solid, but I don't see how they
BB> made a
BB> > ball of dots that is hollow.........If some one knows how this was done
BB> I'd
BB> > appreciate knowing what the scoop is. And if I figure it out I'll tell
BB> about
BB> > it..........md

BB> You could try making a sphere, maybe tesselated to level 4 or 5 or so.
BB> Kill all the
BB> polygons of the sphere (k), and do a points<->polys macro or custom
BB> plug-in. After
BB> that use jitter to randomize the single-point polys.

BB> You'll be able to add a jitter to a radial array in one step in 5.0.

BB> ________________________
BB> Bruce Branit
BB> [e-mail]
BB> http://www.idir.net/~bbranit
-----------------
I tried this doing it your way, and it works PERFECT for what I was needing it
for...........thanx.............md :)

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From: [e-mail] (Pascal Frencken)
Subject: Any good LW books or magazines?
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Hi there,

Just started using LightWave 4.0 on Win NT. Does anyone know any good
books written about this package? And what about some LightWave
magazines? I'd like to know more details about these topics: like
prices, addresses where to order, quality of the books/magazines, etc.

I would appreciate any response to this posting. Thanks in advance.

Pascal

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From: [e-mail] (Matt McClanahan)
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Subject: Re: Cyrix 6x86 and Lightwave?
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Henri Smulders <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Matt McClanahan wrote:
>>
>> Henri Smulders <[e-mail]> wrote: Don't get a Pentiu, 120; get a 75 and clock it up to 150 (or at least 100; 150 is very
>>only succeeded once reliably; but I always try ;-)). I have clocked up p5-75 all the way to 150 without problems(That ONE was exceptional though!) . I'm currently running off of a P5-75 running RELIABLY at 100
>Mhz.
>> Then of course, there were a couple cases of clocking a p75 to p100+
>> and getting unfrotunate results:)  Lesse, one melted through his case,
>> singing the rug (And making quite a mess of liquid transistors) and
>> one just internally fused and died :)  But hey, it's worth the speed,
>> right? ;)
>> Matt

>    I don't know who told you that story; but it is bull! The way Intel processes it's chips is by first
>testing them at the highest clock-rates. If the chip proves to work reliably it goes on the 166 (or is it
>180 now?) heap if it doesmn't it gets tested at a lower speed. So Upclocking does just what Intel itself
>does. Their yields are currently such that more than 90% of the recent chips run reliably at 120 Mhz. This
>means that a current 75 chip has a more than 90% chance of being up-clocked. When a chip does not run
>reliably at higher clock-speeds you just get a machine that crashes randomly. I've gotten Doo-Doo on my
>harddisks because of the crashes; However it never physically damaged any computer part of mine. I am not
>rich enough to screw around with stuff that could damage my PC; That would not be worth the speed. Since it
>is not a money question; but more of a hassle question it is worth it.
Yeah I know how they get made.  I just read the overclocking survey
somebody did. Had results from like 100 people.  Most worked, only two
had "irreversable" damage that included melting and general death :)


Matt McClanahan
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Powell)
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    Ahhh... o.k.

    dumb question #1.

    Open GL... what is it, how do I get it
    (I assume it's a display card feature that takes special calls...
     close?)

     Perhaps I have it already... I have the Diamond Stealth Video 64
    (S3 chipset)


    D.Q. #2

    What is infinite surface layering?  Does this mean assiging
    multiple surface definitions to a single composite definition?
    (NewSurface = BumpySurface + WoodSurface + shinymetalSurface ?)


    And lastly, I hope to hell that plug-ins are *automatically*
    installed! (meaning, anything in the plug-in directory is
    automatically found)

    Cool.


    Funny thing is, Toaster 4.0 (with Lightwave 4.0) is finally
    here (mine arrives tomorrow), and wouldn't you know it...
    5.0 Amiga should be available in 8 weeks (says NewTek rep).


    Michael Powell

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From: [e-mail] (Matt McClanahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NAB'96: Last Tango for LightWave?
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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) wrote:
>Maybe Novell could buy LightWave.  Look at what they did for Wordperfect.

>OK  -  sorry.  That was un-nice.

Yeah, they sold it to Correl :)


>Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
>Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
>http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

Matt McClanahan
[e-mail]


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From: BJ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Sparks -or- Particle Storm?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:03:59 -0400
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>  Does anyone have any info on the difference between Sparks(Metrografx) and
> Particle Storm(Dynamic Realties) for Lightwave(Intel).
>
>  Is there a Web site from these two companies where I can get some information.
> Does anyone recommend any particular plug-in over the other. And why?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> (nonntp.comp.graphics.apps.lightwave)

I have been useing sparkes for a while now and I realy like it. It is pretty stright forward and simple to use.
However after seeing a demo of partical storm at NAB it is the power users way to go. It will creat real time
test animations right on the interface. If you (Click) change an attribute, the little test animation instantly
chages to reflect the differance. Very Smooth... I will keep them both in my tool box and use which ever is
best for the job.

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From: [e-mail] (Matt McClanahan)
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Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
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[e-mail] (Blake Porter) wrote:

>A NAB baiting Tactic?
>Just spoke w/ NewTek, it seems there was a problem w/ documentation
>printing or whatever.   LW 5.0 IS NOT SHIPPING ...it's NewTek what did you
>expect?
>Look for 5.0 in '97

What about those of us that don't care if it comes with
doccumentation? :)


Matt McClanahan
[e-mail]


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From: Bryant Reif <[e-mail]>
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Subject: New and Improved Homepage!
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 23:09:12 -0400
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Bryant's Homepage 2.0 is now available for your viewing pleasure.  This
is a major upgrade from my previous web page and has the following new
features...

1. Java code:  Check out the spinning LW logo in the corner!
2. Frames:  Makes it much easier and faster to navigate.
3. Tables: Things just look more organized that way.
4. Client-side image maps: No more pixel coords!  Real feedback.

Warning: If your browser does not support the previous features, my site
will probably look really bad.  Sorry, I didn't have time to put in
alternative code.

If you can use Netscape 2.0 at 800x600 24 bit color.

Enjoy...

--

Bryant Reif
mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant

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From: [e-mail] (domenico marino)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: The Fx kit for Lightwave book
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:11:31 GMT
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Is there anyone who have bought "The Fx kit for Lightwave book" ????
I have send Two faxes to Light-Speed to have more informations on it
and how to buy it.... but nothing......
Is there anyone who tell me how can I buy it ????
I live in Italy.....


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From: Tetsuo <[e-mail]>
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                I am just curious, would any one be interested in buying a Calcomp
Drawing Board II 12x12 graphics tablet w/pen????? I've only used about
twice. Comes with software for IBM and Amiga (I belive I still have
that) all cables and cordless pressure pen. $400 and I will take care of
shipping. I would like to sell this so I can get a Wacom graphics tablet
Please email if interested.

                                                                                                                                                                        - Tetsuo



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From: [e-mail] (Chewie8625)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Image to slide?
Date: 16 Apr 1996 23:22:01 -0400
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I know it's off subject but I need to transfer some computer images to
slides for a project. Could anyone give me some sugestions on where to get
this done, especially if someone might know where to do this in San Diego.
Thanks
-Emile Edwin Smith
-An about to graduate student in Visual Arts
-Need a janitor?

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From: [e-mail] (Tech Support)
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On Wed  3-Apr-1996 20:52 , Charles Ng wrote:
CN> I still can't get it. I have a lws file with surfaces named. I loaded
CN> images from the image panel and assign them
CN> onto the surface thru surface panel. I save the lws, and guess what, LW
CN> simply doesn't assign any images onto the
CN> surfaces, in fact, it simply forget or doesn't know that it has to LOAD
CN> the image (from scene panel, the image
CN> count is zero). How come??

CN> I tried saving the surfaces as srf files, but still, it wouldn't work.
CN> Why???
Charles:

As stated on page 45 in the LW4.0 User Guide manual:

*****************************SAVE OBJECT Requestor***************************
"Choosing *Save Object* allows you to save the current object to the location
of your choice (ed note:i.e. overwrite existing).  All of the surface changes
as well as any image sequence offset data will be saved along with the object.
--------------------If you have saved any objects using new names or disk
locations, make sure to resave the scene file in order to recall these changes
when you reload the scene."

BTW, *Save All Objects* does the same as abovementioned, only globally.

******************************************************************************
*  Chuck Baker  -  Sysop              *  TekWorld:  NewTek Tech Support BBS  *
*  Technical Support Online Services  *  telnet address:     bbs.newtek.com  *
*  NewTek, Inc.                       *  modem ports:          913-271-9299  *
******************************************************************************

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From: [e-mail] (Ken4Anim)
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Subject: Re: Image to slide?
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Well, I haven't kept up on who's doing slide services, but you might check
with San Diego Video and Film (or is it Film & Video?).

If you have access to a 35mm SLR, the following works well:

1. Use a moderately long lens. A 135mm would be fine.
2. Use a good tripod.
3. Use a CC40R gelatin filter. Nelson Photo Supply should have it.
4. Set up computer monitor and camera in a dark room.
5. Use a very long exposure time. 1/2 or 1 second works well.

Have fun!
    Ken Hull

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From: [e-mail] (Derek Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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In article <4konpl$[e-mail]>,
Paul Mccoy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Derek Lang) wrote:
>
>> This message is primarily to any Amiga users out there...
>
>>An idea struck me as I was washing dishes the other day (okay maybe I
>>wasn't washing the dishes :-> but it sounded like a good opener).
>
>It's full power was never realized. Too late now I guess.
>

I guess it's taken me this long to act on the idea.  Actually I thought
of it some time ago but it's taken me this long to slowly build my Amiga
Empire of today :->  Do to financial and time limitations it has only
been now that I've been thinking of actually having fun with my computer
like in the old days (what was that the eighties :->) as opposed to just
making money and doing other peoples work.  Gosh Darn it I going to have
some fun!   I think it's time I at leat uploaded some cheesy animation or
something.  :->

  Ps. if anyone wants some AREXX scripts for ImageFX there's a lame one
on my web page right now...  and if I ever get myself to update the web
page there'll be some more.  Or if I get enough e-mail flooding my
account (regarding scripts) maybe I'll put them up sooner.

Derek<<<<<

--
Derek Lang        |  "I want him in the games until he dies playing." - MCP
Toronto, Ontario  |--------------------------------------------------------
Canada            |  WebPage-O-Fun -->  http://www.io.org/~dlang

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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
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Subject: LightWave 3D Internet Resources Lists
Date: 17 Apr 1996 01:35:09 -0400
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Hey, it's time for me to again ask all you LightWave enthusiasts to keep
those URL's coming in for my LightWave Internet Resource Lists.

The lists, in three major sections of Animators, CGI Houses, and General
Resources are pretty large, but could certainly get larger with your help.
 So, if you know of a plug-in developer, animation facility, or on-line
tutorial for LightWave, please send me the info so I can check it out, and
add it to the list.

And if you know of something on my list that's changed and I haven't fixed
it, let me know too.  Thanks for your help!
--Brian
======  http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/  ======
== Home of the rather large and mostly complete ==
=====  LightWave 3D Internet Resource Lists  =====

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The HIIP jpeg saver seems to create an image which looks like
its tiled 3 or 4 times, like your seeing triple when viewing the
image.

Anyone else got this to work and how ?

Mark

reply to [e-mail]

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> Hi, live from the NAB floor at the AOL booth, here's a brief scoop on 5.0
>
> $1495 for all platforms.
> $495 to upgrade Intel/Alpha
> $295 to upgrad Amiga
>
> OpenGL in layout and modeler.
> Screen redraws vastly sped up.
> NURBs Modeling
> Multiple textures on surface attributes
> Improved IK
> Fori's Power Texture (that guy, what a great addition).
>
> I'll have a more detailed report later tonight.
> --Brian

Are all these features in the Amiga version to ?
Why does the Amiga upgrade cost less ?

Mark

reply direct to this address please.
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Millenium)
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Subject: Re: WIN95 better than OS/2 PLEASE!!!!
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On Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:56:23 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>IMHO, as someone who has to support OS/2 for a living,
>IT BLOWS!
>  It is the most useless piece of garbage I've ever seen.

I Agree


>If this convinces anyone to NOT waste their valuable money and time on
>this piece of steaming shit, then I will sleep much better tonight.
>
>
>
>The Venerable Arch-Mage Meniscus
>

I have to jump in here, I am running WIN95 on a 486DX2/66 w/8Mb
and it runs fine for my purposes. I decided to borrow a friend's copy
of OS/2 Warp v3.0 just to try it out and was not impressed at all. It
doesn't even compare to WIN95 - it thrashes the hell out of my HD, I
know that I have minimal RAM but even WIN95 isn't that bad, it's
sloooww, takes almost a minute & a half to boot, it barely runs 16 bit
Win apps, and badly at that, has next to no native software, and it
took me 2 days and a download from Simtel to track down a driver for
my video card (I have a Trident VESA-compatible video card) just so I
could have 256 color support. The GUI is not very user friendly, and I
just wasn't impressed with it over all. I will stick with Micro$oft -
any one else out there have OS/2 horror stories?


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From: Guustaaf Damave <[e-mail]>
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Subject: How to install dongle in Win95?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 23:54:56 -0700
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After some reconfiguring of my system layout and modeler do not 'see' my dongle anymore.
Which drivers need to be installed where to make them work again?

Any help and suggestions welcome.

--
Guustaaf Damave
World Wide Magic - Unified Field Productions
http://www.wwmagic.com
phone: [phone]
  fax: [phone]

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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
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In
<ftn_2.203.316.100$[e-mail]
 [e-mail] (Rikard Bosnjakovic) writes:
>
>Where the h*ck can I find plugins for saving animations directly to
AVI,
>instead of saving them as TGA's and join to AVI?
>
>
>Rikard Bosnjakovic - N3 Power! ([e-mail])
>
>.. It's been Monday aaaaaaaaallllllll week!
>
>
>
They come on the Lightwave CD and are in the HIIP folder.
You must install the plug-ins from lightwave by choosing the Install
Plug-ins button. There is a 16 bit and a 32 bit saver depending on
whether you are using Win 3.1(16 bit) , 95, or NT (32 bit).

Cya,
JS

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From: Shadowbird <[e-mail]>
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OK, you Newtek people---is there any truth to the whole Toaster for
Windows thing?  I saw it on the WWW page, but have never heard of anything
like it.  What exactly does that entail?

Other question---I can't figure out CrossDOS---I have AmigaDOS and
workbench v2.05, and as I've heard, it should come with the drivers to
read IBM formatted floppies.  Well, it doesn't.  Am I missing something?

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From: Jim Perkins <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LW snubbed again!
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:21:01 -0500
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> My guess - that the reviewer(s)/editor(s) called NewTek, left
> a message, and their call was never returned.  :-)
>
> - John

I wouldn't be surprised. Don't most companies that ride the high-tech
wave employ agressive public relations people?  Newtek could use a
damage control specialist, and maybe even someone whose entire purpose
is to communicate with all the potential sources of positive media
responses.  Hmmmm... just a thought.

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>TRUESPACE is only $90 go learn on that then..that's a
>> beginners tool :).

>OR, if you want to learn LW, find someone with a
>toaster.  There are a lot of them out there.


Facsinating. True space is considered high-end? Im amazed: I thought clunky
and a bit clumsy was a better descriptor: or maybe it was my tutors fault.
when I started out back in 91 I was being taught on truespace by a friend: it
sucked then, and unfortuantly, things dont seem to have changed much since
then.As for learning LW, I have already made arrangements for that. Thanks
leads for your concern. this was merely a statement of facts in Australia, not
a plea for help Opra style, OK?:)


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From: [e-mail] (Aaron Estrada)
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VirtualBri ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Mirrored surfaces look bad.  Why would they want to make bad surfacing a
: specific feature?
: --Brian
: http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/
: http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

They don't look bad when I set them up. Are you using LightWave?

-Aaron

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From: [e-mail] (Aaron Estrada)
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Subject: DPS e-mail address?
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Does any one know the e-mail address for DPS? THanks!

-Aaron


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From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LWPro Compilation Book
Date: 17 Apr 1996 06:15:47 -0400
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In article <4it9sa$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
writes:

>>Is the LWPro compilation book out yet? They charged my credit card over
>>a month ago but the book hasn't showed up yet!
>
>

I just got my copy, including a CD, which I ordered in November.  By way
of Apology/Promotion they enclosed a $50 credit towards any of their
seminars.

________________________________________________________________________
Don James   The Computer Room    Colorado's Desktop Video Specialists
2760 S. Havana St.  Aurora, CO  80014        [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
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Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
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In article <4kv7o1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(VirtualBri) writes:

>LightWave 5.0 is scheduled to ship April 16th at a price of $1495 on all
>platforms.
     Except SGI

Upgrade costs are $495 for Alpha and Intel, and $295 for
>Amiga.
     Also $295 for VT 4.1 and Flyer 4.1


________________________________________________________________________
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2760 S. Havana St.  Aurora, CO  80014        [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
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Subject: LightWave Pro Online
Date: 17 Apr 1996 05:37:26 -0400
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You thought it would never happen, but *yes* new articles are finally up
for LightWave Pro Online.

Learn the secrets of making a groovy Lava Lamp from Dan Ablan, and make
sure you've taken care of that pesky AVI saving with help from John Gross.

All this and more, in a better organized, and hopefully faster loading
format, at:  http://www.portal.com/~amg/lwpstart.html

Enjoy!
--Brian
Your friendly neighborhood LightWavePro webmaster.
http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/
http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

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From: Remko Steenstra <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LW 5.0 Feature List
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:39:41 -0700
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Mike Powell wrote:
>
>         Ahhh... o.k.
>
>         dumb question #1.
>
>         Open GL... what is it, how do I get it
>         (I assume it's a display card feature that takes special calls...
>          close?)
>
>          Perhaps I have it already... I have the Diamond Stealth Video 64
>         (S3 chipset)
>
>         D.Q. #2
>
>         What is infinite surface layering?  Does this mean assiging
>         multiple surface definitions to a single composite definition?
>         (NewSurface = BumpySurface + WoodSurface + shinymetalSurface ?)
>
>         And lastly, I hope to hell that plug-ins are *automatically*
>         installed! (meaning, anything in the plug-in directory is
>         automatically found)
>
>         Cool.
>
>         Funny thing is, Toaster 4.0 (with Lightwave 4.0) is finally
>         here (mine arrives tomorrow), and wouldn't you know it...
>         5.0 Amiga should be available in 8 weeks (says NewTek rep).
>
>         Michael Powell

DQ #1

Ok, here's the official definition from the OpenGL programming guide:

"OpenGL is a powerful software interface for graphics hardware that allows
 graphics programmers to produce high-quality color images of 3D objects.
 The functions in the OpenGL library enable programmers to build geometric
 models, view models interactively in 3D space, control color and lighting,
 manipulate pixels, and perform such tasks as alpha blending, anti-aliasing,
 creating atmospheric effects, and texture mapping."

OpenGL descended from Silicon Graphics' GL library, and is now standardized
to run on other platforms, including WinNT and (from what I've heard) Win95.
If you run WinNT you can check out the OpenGL screensavers to see what it
can do. LW's PowerView plugin also uses OpenGL.

Although you don't need hardware to use it, OpenGL was really meant for
use with 3D accelerator boards, like those in more expensive SGI and CAD
workstations. So to answer your question, LW 5.0 will work just fine with
your Diamond stealth; however, all OpenGL functions (like previews, inter-
active lighting) will be handled by software, not hardware.
Buying a real OpenGL accelerator board would make a world of difference there.
Some programs even refuse to work without one; noticebly good ol' SoftImage.:)

In case you wondered, OpenGL is not supported on the Amiga.

DQ #2

That's what I think it means, too.


Hope this helps,

Remko Steenstra

Graduate student of Image & MediaTechnology,
Freelance ElectroGig operator.

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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Where is my memory disappearing to?
Date: 17 Apr 1996 12:14:09 GMT
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In article <4kp3bo$[e-mail]>, David Forbus <[e-mail]> writes:
>I'm using Lightwave 4.0 intel. When I load a scene my resources show that
>I have 39+Megs of free RAM. When I start rendering the machine starts
>using virtual memory. After halting the render, resources show 0Megs free.
>Where did 39Megs go? I have been using Lightwave on the PC for a few
>months and for two years on the Amiga. This problem seems to have appeared
>out of nowhere. I have not had this problem before. Also, I'm running
>under both Win95 and WinNT 3.51. The problem is identical running
>Lightwave with either. Any advice? I have recently had to mess with
>system configurations. Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks..............DLF
>

There is no problem here. That's just the way LW works. I take it you are refering
to physical RAM (the 39+Megs). LW will grab some of this, but due to the way Win95
works, it will show as 0. Under the paging memory bit though, you should see all
the virtual memory available (the space free on the drive you have set up in Win95
as a virtual drive... TIP: make sure this is your fast drive, and it's an
uncompressed partition).

LW will grab bits of memory from Win95 and fill them as necessary. Don't worry
about it. What you should find, is that the VM will work very quickly and almost
un-noticably in the background (unlike when I used to use VMM on the Amiga %^&$^).

Stu


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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>On Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:56:23 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>IMHO, as someone who has to support OS/2 for a living,
>>IT BLOWS!
>>  It is the most useless piece of garbage I've ever seen.
>
>I Agree
>
>
>>If this convinces anyone to NOT waste their valuable money and time on
>>this piece of steaming shit, then I will sleep much better tonight.
>>
>>
>>
>>The Venerable Arch-Mage Meniscus
>>
>
>I have to jump in here, I am running WIN95 on a 486DX2/66 w/8Mb
>and it runs fine for my purposes. I decided to borrow a friend's copy
>of OS/2 Warp v3.0 just to try it out and was not impressed at all. It
>doesn't even compare to WIN95 - it thrashes the hell out of my HD, I
>know that I have minimal RAM but even WIN95 isn't that bad, it's
>sloooww, takes almost a minute & a half to boot, it barely runs 16 bit

You are right it is. I mean slow ! That's because of the 8 Mb. It runs
very good with 16Mb even better that win95 and it is more stable.
I have a multiboot system with Warp, Win95, Win NT and Linux. My
favorites are WinNT and Linux. I think every OS has it own
characteristics. For the rest, everyone is free. Afterall, you dress you
private dog (PC) as you like.

>Win apps, and badly at that, has next to no native software, and it
>took me 2 days and a download from Simtel to track down a driver for
>my video card (I have a Trident VESA-compatible video card) just so I
>could have 256 color support. The GUI is not very user friendly, and I
>just wasn't impressed with it over all. I will stick with Micro$oft -
>any one else out there have OS/2 horror stories?
>
>
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From: [e-mail] (ProPain)
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Subject: Re: 5.0 new features
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Any improvements to the User interface?



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From: [e-mail] (ProPain)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Whoa!  LW 5.0?!
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:58:22 GMT
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I saw that ad too, and quickly went to the www page at the bottom of
the ad.

But of course, there was NO mention of 5.0 on the web page.

Come on guys, marketing is getting ahead of your www people.  (nothing
new)





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From: Henri Smulders <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Sparks -or- Particle Storm?
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[e-mail] wrote:
>  Does anyone have any info on the difference between Sparks(Metrografx) and
> Particle Storm(Dynamic Realties) for Lightwave(Intel).
>  Is there a Web site from these two companies where I can get some information.
> Does anyone recommend any particular plug-in over the other. And why?

    I think they basically do the same thing. Sparks presumably has a very fast
calculation engine. (Advertisement shows a waterfall calculated in a very short time
with lots o' particles). I don't know how fast Particle Storm is. Particle Storm is
supposed to incorporate real-time feed-back which would be very nice. Dynamic Realities
also makes Impact which is a nice very nice Package so it is not a "Bogus" company. They
have a website: do a Lycos search). MetroGrafx has been around for a long time. They
also make "Hair" (Fiber Factory). I've heard that the Sparks inetrface was archaic; but
that might have changed as I really like the FiberFactory interface. Sparks is shipping
right now; Paerticle Storm is supposedly shipping in 2 weeks.

Hajo

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In <4kobvm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>IMHO, as someone who has to support OS/2 for a living,
>IT BLOWS!
>  It is the most useless piece of garbage I've ever seen.
>
>Here are some truths to hold against the marketing scams that IBM has
>touted OS/2 with:
>
>(1) "OS/2 is more stable than ________"
>      Bullshit. I see it crash applications 5 or 10 times a day. And,
>when Windows locks up an application, it at least goes ahead and does
>it. OS/2 sits there with the entire system hung up for 5 minutes (no
>lie) while it tries depsperately to recover the application. In the
>meantime, you can't do anything but move the mouse around. Usually,
>OS/2 CAN'T recover, and you end up having to reboot your system (which
>in itself takes forever).
>(2) "OS/2 is faster than __________"
>     Not. I have never seen another OS thrash the living hell out of a
>hard disk as badly as OS/2 does. A good comparison would be running
>Photoshop on a 486 w/ 12MB of RAM and editing a 1024x768x24bit
>picture. But, OS/2 acts like that on a Pentium 90 w/ 40MB of RAM...
>(3) "OS/2 uses less memory than ________"
>     See #2. OS/2 on a Pentium 90 w/ 8MB of RAM runs slower than it
>does on a 386 with 16MB of RAM.
>(4) "You can still use DOS and Windows applications"
>     If all you run is DOS and Windows apps anyway, then why bother
>having OS/2?? Its just unnecessary overhead that takes up valuable
>system resources (RAM, disk space, etc).
>  Also, (5) OS/2 does not support Win95/NT applications AT ALL, (6)
>has poor support for Win32s, (7) has next to no driver support
>(scanners, sound cards, digitizers, tablets, etc.) and (8) hardly any
>native applications. And then there's my favorite: if the OS2.INI or
>OS2SYS.INI file gets corrupted, YOU HAVE HOSED YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM AND
>MUST REINSTALL OS/2 AND EVERY DAMN APPLICATION YOU HAVE. These files
>are not user-editable, and trying to use backups rarely works.
>
>If this convinces anyone to NOT waste their valuable money and time on
>this piece of steaming shit, then I will sleep much better tonight.
>
>
>
>The Venerable Arch-Mage Meniscus
>

Well put!
JS

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From: Henri Smulders <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
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[e-mail] wrote:
> >   [e-mail] writes:
> >    Actually, now that I think of it, I don't think they handled Jumanji very
> >  well (putting them up against the standards they set with Jurassic and others).
>         2)  Finally saw Jumanji (for $2.00--ya gotta love 2nd run theatres!) and felt
>         that something in the compositing was just not right, maybe the contrast?  The
>         animals seemed more washed out than the background plates, and the "grain"
>         was not a perfect match.
>         Jumanji was covered, of course, in Cinefx-- recommended buy if you can find
>         a back issue (and they are not hard to find).
> >                        -=Fred=-
> ** [e-mail]

    The problem with Jumanji was one of hubris. If you compare actual effects shots of Jumanji with
Jurassic Park Jumanji is hands down the better one. (Seen the hair on the lion). The problem is that
animation is not at a level yet were humans get fooled if they can look at it longer than just a flash of a
second. Jurassic Pasrk (JP) only has a few minutes of dinosaurs in it. The editing is superb! You get the
feeling that the movie is filled with dino's; while it isn't. The parts where the tricks don't work are the
raptore in the kitchen (Shot is too long!) and the raptors and Trex in final scene: Interaction is not well
done.
    Jumanji wants to SHOW too much and suggest too little. This is not an effects problem; but an
editing problem. It shows the difference between Spielberg and the other guys Not that ILM suddenly forgot
everything they knew and now sucks.... (One of the reasons Star-Wars withstands the test of time: Lucas has
the same feeling for editing).
    It seems to be a problem a lot of people forget: When looking at babylon 5 or seaquest and thinking
why doesn't my scene look like this: Editing is big part of it (Sound too) Animators are only a small piece
of the pie. We must not forget that!
    Before I stop my rant: I'm not an editor: I've just seen how a bad one can screw up my source
material and how a good one can make me look at my own material and make me be blown away by it. (Hint: try
to get friend who is a good editor and another one who is a good sound guy for your demo-tape.) You probably
think you're very good: Trust me if you're talent is as an animator chances are that you're not that great
at the other tasks or you'd be extremely exceptional)

Hajo

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Date: 17 Apr 1996 04:17:16 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark
Dunakin) writes:
>
>Say does anyone know how you make that star field that is shaped like
a big
>ball. I can make a ball of dots that is solid, but I don't see how
they made a
>ball of dots that is hollow.........If some one knows how this was
done I'd
>appreciate knowing what the scoop is. And if I figure it out I'll tell
about
>it..........md

A real simple and fast way to do this if you have LW 4.0 on the PC
or the Amiga version has the same Macros I believe.
Under the Tools menu go to the Custom button and you will find three
plug-ins that make this very simple.

1. RandPoints
Open this plug-in and enter 500 or 1000 points.

2.Points2 polys
Convert all points to single point polygons.

3.Spherize
Make all single point polys conform to a sphere

I hope this helps.
Cya,
JS



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Subject: Re: You wanna Know the sad part about piracy?
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Adam Ives Chrystie wrote:
>
> In <4l0a1m$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (AJAKUTY) writes:
>
> >The Joke about piracy claims by the maufacturers and distributors, is that if
> >there was no piracy, how else would the kids be able to train themselves in the
> >techniques of 3d rendering modelling and animation? Sure as hell wont see any
> >of that stuff being taught in schools. or Universities for that matter! MY Uni
>
> Hmm...I beg to differ. MANY universities have 3d softwarew..that's why i
> looked foward to University so much...take a class in 3d graphics..sure
> class is only 4 weeks long..but then you take another class..etc..you
> plan ahgead and beat the system..for example many differrent classes ue
> alias here...but each class professor lets us do what we pleqse..so each
> quarter we sign up for classes which give us access to teh SGI computers...
>
>
> If your school doesn;t have the good equipment ..go elsewhere...yea
> school costs alot..i owe and owe and owe..but isn;t that what education
Well i hear your talking about education and 3d-modelling. I guess it is
quite "simple" to get into universities that cover this area in whatever
country you are. But its not like that everywhere. Here we have only one
university that does cover this area.. they take up about 30 students
every 2.nd year.  Of course i could go abroad (to your fine country) and
study, but how could i afford that? yousay loan... i say ill only get a
loan to study abroad if it gains society.. something this area hardly
does.

> But there is no excuse for piracy just cuz your poor and want the
> powerful stuff...TRUESPACE is only $90 go learn on that then..that's a
> beginners tool :).
>
I agree when it comes to this point though.... piracy ruins developers,
but i do good programs is a bit highpriced... and everyone should start
with the easiest.. guess its the only way to really learn...

i dont know what the cost of Lighwave is here.. but i guess its quite
high.. i dont know the price for the good ol' 3DS.. here the 3.0 version
did cost about $4000.. now that is a bit pricy isnt it.. guess lightwave
5.0 blasts this price....

gas

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From: Henri Smulders <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Animating Liquid?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:05:53 -0400
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Matt Crystal wrote:
> I have a question.  We need to do an animation that consists of animating liquids.  Is there a special
> program/plug-in, or is there a tip someone can give me?
> Matt Crystal    If you use Lightwave: you're not gonna like this. To animate liquids My opinion is
that the only way to do it well is with Blobs. Lightwave currently does not support blobs.
That does not mean that you have to run out and buy MAX. Check out the Impulse site. They
sell Imagine for $200-$300. It has a very good blobby modeler; animation routines built in.
(version4). It has a fast high-quality renderer. Drawbacks: It only runs under DOS
(Aaaargh!; not even a Dos box: How do I switch to Photoshop? and a very lousy documentation
 with a weird Amiga-like interface.)
    Besides the drawbacks I use it for all my special effects.

Hajo

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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
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Subject: Re: Playback
Date: 17 Apr 1996 04:38:26 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> Mike Daniel <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>My LW40c just arrived about 3 days ago and I can't find
>out where to playback any animations that I render and save?
>
>Am I missing something or is it a little LW joke.
>
>
>                Mike D.


You must have the runtime version of Video for Windows installed.
It is free from ftp.microsoft.com of www.microsoft.com.
You play them back using the media player in the accessories group.
This is for Win 3.1, 3.11. I imagine 95 has a similar scheme.


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From: [e-mail] (Prince)
Subject: WANTED LightWave 4.0 Trade
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Will Trade

    Caligari TrueSapce 2.0 Full Version SN Included
    3D Studio 4 Missing Inverse Kentics

Wanted LightWave 4.0 Full Version with SN
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        Hi, Shadow.

m> I just upgraded to lw 4.0 on the PC and have two questions so far.
m>
m> 1) on the amiga you could save a series of framestores or images to the
m> harddrive and then send them as a series of images to a single frame
m> animation recorder (much easier on the recorder hardware) at a later
m> time.  Can you do this on the PC and if so, how?
I do this, so I caninterrupt the Rendering, without much of a consequence.
It's record/save RGB Images. (Guess same as on the Amiga?!?)

m> 2) on the PC using win95 will things render faster if you minimize layout
m> to the task bar?
I have tryed this, but saw no great difference.
If anything, I think it should be slower, being a background Task.

        mfG                                     2:316/76.11
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        /XX\ Andreas                            [e-mail]

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        Hi, [e-mail].

In this thread I heard of a raytracingplugin for 3ds?
I know, that is the wrong group, but has anybody some experiance with it?

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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Subject: Re: You wanna Know the sad part about piracy?
Date: 17 Apr 1996 14:54:32 GMT
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In article <4l0a1m$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>The Joke about piracy claims by the maufacturers and distributors, is that if
>there was no piracy, how else would the kids be able to train themselves in
the
>techniques of 3d rendering modelling and animation?

You wanna know the sad part about pirates?  They're always making
excuses about why they "must" steal software.

>I wish that there was another way around it, but lets face it,
>with courses being offered for less than 2 months at slected colleges at
>exhorbitant prices, how else is the High-school neo-nate gonna learn and get
on
>in life?

There are plenty of free 3D programs.  Ask any animator, the technical
details are not necessarily important, but an artistic sense is
important.  How is stealing LightWave or 3DS going to improve
your artistic ability?

And last time I checked, there are hundreds and hundreds of tech
schools and Autodesk training centers that will teach you how to
use 3D Studio.  Oh, yes, they do charge money to teach you.  If you
want to teach yourself, read books at the library - that's free.

- John


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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
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Subject: Re: Star field?
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kip Pesuti)
writes:
>
>>Say does anyone know how you make that star field that is shaped like
a big
>>ball. I can make a ball of dots that is solid, but I don't see how
they made
>>a ball of dots that is hollow.........If some one knows how this was
done I'd
>>appreciate knowing what the scoop is. And if I figure it out I'll
tell about
>>it..........md
>
>You could make a giant sphere with a ba-zillion segments and sides.
Then cut
>the polys away (k), and save the points as single-point polys. If
you're using
>an Amiga, you could use the points2polys or points2particles Arexx
macros.

> God bless you!
>(and your Amiga)
>-Kip
>
>PS: If you don't have an Amiga, then God bless you, anyway! ;)
>
 points2polys or points2particles are also plugins on the PC version.
Although you access them from the Tools custom button rather than the
Objects Custom button.
JS

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These are two seperate subjects in one message, by the way.

First, I can never find anyone on #lightwave. What server do people use
mostly? What are good times to catch someone? Any info on this would be
appreciated.

Second, I have work that need to fly thru space (I know, very original),
and they need to trail into transparent in the +Z. I've heard people
mention using a Grid or Checkerboard transparency surface for this, but
I'm having no luck. Anyone?

TIA,

TL

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These are two seperate subjects in one message, by the way.

First, I can never find anyone on #lightwave. What server do people use
mostly? What are good times to catch someone? Any info on this would be
appreciated.

Second, I have words that need to fly thru space (I know, very
original), and they need to trail to invisibility in the +Z. I've heard
people mention using a Grid or Checkerboard transparency surface for
this, but I'm having no luck. Anyone?

TIA,

TL

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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
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Subject: Re: lha to lwo?
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In <4kubpj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chewie8625)
writes:
>
>Hi, this is probably a really newbie question, but I came across a lha
>object that I want to take a look at and I am assuming that this is
the
>old naming structure from the Amiga. My question is, is there a
utility to
>convert it to a lwo or some other such object that can be read by LW
>intel? Thanks
>-Emile Edwin Smith
>-An about to graduate student in Visual Arts
>-Need a janitor?


LHA is a compression scheme like PKzip. You need the program 'lha'
which is freely available in Amiga and PC formats.
You need to get this program (LHA), install it, then extract the object
files from their LHA archives.
JS

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From: [e-mail] (PalaBart)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Need Amiga 4000 Repair (kinda off topic)
Date: 17 Apr 1996 11:45:45 -0400
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Hi all,

I've got an A4000 on the blink (the other 2 are working so Im' still in
business).  However, I don't have a contact for repair of these things
anymore.  Anyone out there know of a repair facility for the A4000?

Thanks in advance

Bart Palamaro
Dark Horse Productions
[e-mail]

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From: Darren Metcalfe <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 Ships Tomorrow
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:04:04 -0700
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VirtualBri wrote:
>
> Hi, live from the NAB floor at the AOL booth, here's a brief scoop on 5.0
>
> $1495 for all platforms.
> $495 to upgrade Intel/Alpha
> $295 to upgrad Amiga

According to Dave Hibsher, NT Tech Writer, on the mail list, Alpha owners
upgrade free.

--
Darren Metcalfe
[e-mail]


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Jeroen Van Velsen wrote:

> I would like a Raptor too, but I'm thinking about trading my Amiga for a PC.
> I spent more then $ 4000,- on it and I don't even have a PAR or something
> simular. I spent this money on comfort and speed, but a PC gives much more
> for this amount of money (NOT talking about the OS ofcourse, but everything
> else... GFX cards, Razor (video editting software), games...)

Here's my take, I use a P90/NT, an Amiga3kT/Warp4040/CV64 and (grudgingly) a
PowerMac8100. I have LW4 on the Amiga and the PC.

If you use (almost) exclusively Lightwave for video/film, get the fastest PC
you can afford, unless you can afford an Alpha 21164 or a Dual PPro200. If you
can afford to buy the new machine before you sell your Amiga, hang on to the
Ami for awhile at least, give yourself time to become productive with PC
tools.

If like me, you use LW and a whole host of other stuff for game/multimedia/web
stuff, and are constantly fighting with custom 256 color palettes, resources
and materials that come in every flavor and on every disk format, processing
video and animation for proprietary formats etc. you'll want access to every
tool you can get your hands on.

I'd love to simplify my life but until I can replace ADPro, DPaint,
ImageFX, Debabelizer and AfterEffects on WindowsNT, the Amiga and Mac stay
right where they are and get the occasional Processor/Ram/HD upgrade.

BTW, for small Mac tasks I prefer to run Shapeshifter on the Amiga, it crashes
almost as often as the PMac but it reboots in 1/10th the time, and with my
setup the Mac gui is just as (un)responsive. Where this falls down (obviously)
is with Premiere, Debabelizer and AfterEffects.

--
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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:01:25 GMT
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[e-mail] (Chuck Oerter) wrote:

>Talking about Imagine the thing that sets it apart IMHO is the modeler
>which is really a piece of work.
>Chuck

i heard that lightwave works on 95. MAX too ?



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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Smith)
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Subject: Re: Can anyone email me lightwave?
Date: 17 Apr 1996 16:16:57 GMT
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In article <4kmubg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst ) writes:
>In <4kj8nk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stranahan)
>writes:
>>
>>Hey - could someone please mail me a dongle? And a DEC Alpha or 2?
>>
>>
>>_____________________________________________
>>Lee Stranahan


We've just had 3 DEC Alphas, each with 1 gig of main memory (!!!!) delivered....
unfortunately they are not for rendering LW anims on :-(   make you sick :-( Maybe
I can sneek in at night at use them :-)



Stu


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From: [e-mail] (Warhead)
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I've a little Problem with the NT_AVI Plugin.

If I want to choose the NT_AVI Plugin in the Record Menu
I get this error message:  Activation failed:  code -2

I've added the plugin in the options menu like all the others,
but there was no entry in my lw.cfg file.

So I've added this line:
Plugin AnimSaverHandler NT-AVI(.avi) C:\NEWTEK\plugin\layout\nt_avi.p
NT-AVI(.avi)

I'd appreciate if anyone can help me with this.


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From: [e-mail] ()
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I'm sure this is one of those four-times-a-week questions
so I offer appologies in advance.

Could someone please tell me how to subscribe to the Lightwave
Mailing List...?

Thanks.

--
Cliff
[e-mail]
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From: Brian 'Doc' O'Neill <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
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VirtualBri wrote:
>
> OK, so here's some of the scoop on 5.0, as it develops:
>
> LightWave 5.0 is scheduled to ship April 16th at a price of $1495 on all
> platforms.  Upgrade costs are $495 for Alpha and Intel, and $295 for
> Amiga.

Ummm, I bought 4.0 Pre-release for $800, then spent MONTHS trying to get
the release of 4.0 (which I only got two months ago, since Newtek
shipped it to someone else), and now they want ANOTHER $500 to upgrade
something I've only had TWO MONTHS?

--
======================================================================
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University of Massachusetts at Lowell                [e-mail]
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[e-mail] (Chuck Oerter) wrote:

>Talking about Imagine the thing that sets it apart IMHO is the modeler
>which is really a piece of work.
>Chuck


Is 3dsMAX compatible 95 ?



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From: [e-mail] (Tech Support)
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Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 11:40:02
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On Tue 16-Apr-1996 16:38 , Mark Dunakin wrote:
MD> On Tue 16-Apr-1996  6:18p, Adam Ives Chrystie wrote:

MD> AC> Can anyone else confirm this?

MD> I just ordered mine today! :) I'll have it in my grubby little hands in
MD> four
MD> to six weeks. I can't wait. They ARE taking orders today and all this week
MD> you
MD> can also get a LW T-shirt or hat. I like to go fishing, so I took the hat.
MD>  ALSO!!! I just got my LWpro book today!!!!! Finally! And it's true, it
MD> was
MD> worth the wait as far as I'm concerned..........I just talked to Newtek
MD> and
MD> they said that they should have all the new specs on LW on the boards by
MD> today..............md :)

Everyone:

True, LightWave version 5.0 shipment for Intel/Alpha is awaiting final
fruition of all supporting documentation.  I have been assured that the orders
for said product currently being taken will be charged for only when the
update ships.  Shipment is expected by all parties involved (including us)
within the next 10 or so days...not '97.

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In article <[e-mail]>, Tech Support
<[e-mail]> writes
>
>Developing with Sun's Java
>Sun brings a large installed base in commercial markets, where visualization
>is a key component, to the relationship, as well as the Java development
>language.  NewTek's choice of Java as a development language will take full
>advantage of the capabilities of the UltraSPARC( workstation and Ultra 1
>Creator 3D Graphics Accelerator.  Java's write-once-run-everywhere capability,
>along with its easy accessibility, have propelled the software and Internet
>communities to embrace it as a de facto standard for writing applications for
>complex networks.
>"We expect that a technology-sharing relationship with NewTek will yield yet
>another explosion of Internet applications, this time in creating digital
>media tools.  We're excited that a company such as NewTek, who has been
>involved in the creation of productions such as Star Trek, Babylon 5, The
>Simpsons, and Goldeneye, is embracing the Java technology,"  said Carl Wolf,
>Vice President Business Development for Sun.
>

Perhaps they haven't seen how fast it isn't..... Java's got a fuck of a
long way to go before you can rewrite LW with it. On the other hand,
it'd make an excelent built in macro language.

Gwynne.

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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Chuck Oerter) wrote:
>
> >Talking about Imagine the thing that sets it apart IMHO is the modeler
> >which is really a piece of work.
> >Chuck
>
> Is 3dsMAX compatible 95 ?

No.

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From: [e-mail] (Vaibhav Goel)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On 4/13/96 10:25PM, in message <[e-mail]>, Tim Krego
><[e-mail]> wrote:

>That's why they show the dozens of TV shows, etc. that are using it.
> Certainly Steven Spielberg saw it as a professional piece of software.
>If it's good enough for him, it's more than likely good enough for the
>average hobbyist or professional.


You know if I had a nickel for each time a Lightwave user suggests to a
newbie who is interested in purchasing a 3D software that Lightwave would
be the program for him and the only reason he can give is "oh well its
being used extensively in the TV industry; just look at B5, Space and
other shows", I'd have enough cash to buy that brand new 96 Suzuki
GSXR-750 :)



Regards,
Vaibhav

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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
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>They don't look bad when I set them up. Are you using LightWave?

>-Aaron

You think just reverse mirroring surfaces, rather than making seemless
tiling, is better?  I'd rather make the surface seemless.  Go figure....
--Brian

BTW--For everyone that's not really reading this thread, but seems
obligated to comment, we were *not* talking about tracing reflections.  We
all know that is an old feature and works real well.

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>They don't look bad when I set them up. Are you using LightWave?

>-Aaron

You think just reverse mirroring surfaces, rather than making seemless
tiling, is better?  I'd rather make the surface seemless.  Go figure....
--Brian

BTW--For everyone that's not really reading this thread, but seems
obligated to comment, we were *not* talking about tracing reflections.  We
all know that is an old feature and works real well.

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On Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:56:23 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>(1) "OS/2 is more stable than ________"
>      Bullshit. I see it crash applications 5 or 10 times a day. And,

I would suspect faulty hardware, or an improper installation.

>when Windows locks up an application, it at least goes ahead and does
>it. OS/2 sits there with the entire system hung up for 5 minutes (no
>lie) while it tries depsperately to recover the application. In the
>meantime, you can't do anything but move the mouse around. Usually,
>OS/2 CAN'T recover, and you end up having to reboot your system (which
>in itself takes forever).

But, you'll agree, that even if the interface is not responding, the
programs running in the background continue happily along, which is
crucial for automated mission-critical systems.


>(2) "OS/2 is faster than __________"
>     Not. I have never seen another OS thrash the living hell out of a
>hard disk as badly as OS/2 does. A good comparison would be running
>Photoshop on a 486 w/ 12MB of RAM and editing a 1024x768x24bit
>picture. But, OS/2 acts like that on a Pentium 90 w/ 40MB of RAM...

Here's where you show your silliness best.  The only time my OS/2
486DX4-100 with 24Mb churned the disk severely was during boot up, and
that was due to the fact that it was creating the 25Mb swapper.dat
file.  Have you tried NT on a 486 with only 24Mb?


>(3) "OS/2 uses less memory than ________"
>     See #2. OS/2 on a Pentium 90 w/ 8MB of RAM runs slower than it
>does on a 386 with 16MB of RAM.

Again, this is pure silliness.  I doubt you have actually used OS/2
extensively.  If you had you'd have no problem rectifying these
problems.

>native applications. And then there's my favorite: if the OS2.INI or
>OS2SYS.INI file gets corrupted, YOU HAVE HOSED YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM AND
>MUST REINSTALL OS/2 AND EVERY DAMN APPLICATION YOU HAVE. These files

What happens if the Win95 registry gets corrupted?  How far would
Win31 get if win.ini and/or system.ini were corrupted?

Warp, as you know since you support it for a living, has a feature
built in which can, if you desire, backup your *.ini files as well as
your config.sys each time you boot.  You can further choose to have a
recovery screen presented at each boot.  You can restore 3 previous
configurations, as well as the original one you started with when you
first installed OS/2.

>are not user-editable, and trying to use backups rarely works.

Funny, I have 4 or 5 utilities around here that allow me to edit the
OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI.  As to the backups, the os itself backs them
up for me at boot time.  If I wish, I can also xcopy the ini files to
my Zip drive at boot time for further backup security.


>If this convinces anyone to NOT waste their valuable money and time on
>this piece of steaming shit, then I will sleep much better tonight.

If this convinces anyone of anything other than the fact that abortion
and euthaneisa should remain legal in order to keep idiots like you
out of the gene pool, I will be somewhat amused.

>The Venerable Arch-Mage Meniscus

The Venerable Ass-Mange Menstrus?


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From: [e-mail] (Dave Chin )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 18:12:45 GMT
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[e-mail] (VirtualBri) Scribed in electrons:

>OK, so here's some of the scoop on 5.0, as it develops:
<snip>
>OpenGL is implimented in Layout and Modeler, with full-color background
>images available, as well as some basic surfacing abilities in Modeler.
>So, you can see your lighting effects without rendering, and see surfacing
>effects, including displacements.

This was great.  The best thing about Lightwave's implementation is the
ability to toggle an individual object between a solid and a mesh.


>IK is improved, with more joint control, and joint "compensation" which
>keeps objects from pinching and flattening around joints, and "flexing"
>which simulates organic muscle movement.

Yea!!! No more ugly joints. I like the amount of control over the 'muscle
flex'.

>Surfacing has some nifty new features...

Multiple surface textures are totally cool. I am so glad they allow any
number of textures, not just two. Reminds me of good ol, Topas :)

>Modeler now has MetaNURBs, LightWave's own flavor of NURB rendering...


This is worth the $500 upgrade by itself. You can also switch back and
forth between NURBs and Polys very easily.


>Now that's just what I got from hanging around the booth a bit, and I'm
>sure there is more.  The box says there are 100 plug-ins,
>--Brian

It says on the box that it now has Metaball modeling. I couldn't get anyone
at the booth to demonstrate it. I kinda got the feeling, while talking to
the NT experts, that many of the plugins are for new animators.

Their booth seemed to lack enthusiasm compared to previous NAB and SIGGRAPH
shows. The reps didn't really want to answer specific questions, only talk
about MetaNURBs and OpenGL.

Oh, yeah - Most of the big screen animation demos were from 'Hypernauts'
and the M&Ms.

--
Shock
Imagine Amation

Waiting for my Five point Zero upgrades, and 433 mhz Raptor Reflex :)

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From: [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Need a Copy of Lightwave for PC
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On Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:30:29 GMT, [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
wrote:

>Anyone have an extra copy of Lightwave for PC for sale?  Mosttly just
>need the dongle, have the other stuff.  Please email me at
>[e-mail]
>
>
>Thanks in advance.

I don't have time to read this group very often but someone just told
me that I was getting slamed for posting the above.

Why?  Software licenses are legally transferable.  The statement that
I have the other stuff should let you know that I already have the
manuals and CD's.  Hmmm, how did I get those?  Could it be that I have
legally purchased 2 SGI copies, 1 Alpha copy and 2 PC copies and now
need another PC copy?  That I don't need 6 copies of the manual and
CD?  If I was a 'pirate' wouldn't I be looking for the manuals and
other stuff, not a dongle.  I've owned Lightwave legally since version
1.0 and done more than my share to support Newtek.

Why don't you losers relax and back off?

He who is without sin cast the first stone.


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From: Henri Smulders <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Blazingly fast rendering with little memory
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Hi, just downloaded nod1demo.zip from the newtek ftp site and it
is a blazingly fast standalone renderer for LW. (Not really standalone;
it uses screamernet.) This is a really cool tool if you have LW but
only one CPU. I just tested it out and am looking forward to taking my
dongle home; build scenes for fun and then render them out while I'm
gone. It is incredibly fast as a rendering engine. Really cool; go get
it!

Hajo

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From: SiR-X <[e-mail]>
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Subject: how to create textures?
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YES HI! i am looking for a way to create lice looking textures! if u have any info at all like books?
websites? newsgroups? or faqs! PLSPLSPLS EMAIL....me...thnx alot, Lates
SiR-X
<[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail] ("Glyn Williams")
Subject: Coolest Job on the planet: Computer Animator
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Vacancy for Computer Artist/Animator (Sheffield UK)
__________________________________________

Particle Systems Ltd. is looking for a bright, talented and imaginative
artist, to join its existing art team.

* The Applicant
We are looking for an individual with a powerful visual imagination and
the skills to get those images onto paper or into a computer. Although
direct computer and game experience in not required, we can only consider
applicants who can demonstrate the highest levels of artistic skill.

Personality is hard to quantify, but if you enjoy some of the following
you’d probably enjoy working with us:
Science-Fiction illustration / Cinefex / Computer Generated Imagery / Jim
Cameron / Character animation / Computer 3D packages / Anime /
Story-boarding / Iain M Banks / Movie Production design / Empire Strikes
Back

* The Job
The company is offering the opportunity to work on incredibly exciting
game titles. The position will involve the production of  animated
sequences and the design of environments and models. The artist will be
offered considerable creative freedom working within a small team with a
common goal: Excellence.

* The Company
Particle Systems is a small, new company, but has roots in the earliest
days of computer gaming. We have existing contracts with a major
publisher allowing us to grow. This means we can offer a stable career
development path. Above all, the company is based on professionalism and
creative excellence.

* Contact.
In addition to a CV we also need to see example artwork, whether that be
a paper portfolio, a disk containing images or a VHS show-reel. We will
return artwork when requested.

We can only consider UK or EC citizens at this time.

The closing date is Thursday 25th April

Please Write / Fax or Send Email to

Glyn Williams
Particle Systems Ltd.
3 Westbrook Court
Sharrowvale Road
Sheffield S11 8YZ
ENGLAND

Fax: [phone]
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
Date: 17 Apr 1996 15:50:59 -0400
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>It says on the box that it now has Metaball modeling. I couldn't get
anyone
>at the booth to demonstrate it.

Yep, I didn't see any of it either.

>Their booth seemed to lack enthusiasm compared to previous NAB and
SIGGRAPH
>shows. The reps didn't really want to answer specific questions, only
talk
>about MetaNURBs and OpenGL.

The booth was, shall we say, sedate?  Luckily the public was excited.  I
saw, and was part of the steady stream upgrading in the booth, and there
were a lot of people evaluating the program for the first time.

I wished there were more 3rd party people around, in the booth and in the
show.  Most everyone was showing MAX stuff, or SoftImage, and when they
asked me and I told them I used LightWave, I got a lot of "gas faces" from
exhibitors.

Kinetix (the new Autodesk arm for MAX) was much more active and uptempo,
although I have to say, their demo reel was unimpressive, in some places
looking like early 80s CGI out of colleges, and all their demo people
seemed to be fixated on volumetric lighting, which although nice, isn't
worth the price.

>Oh, yeah - Most of the big screen animation demos were from 'Hypernauts'
>and the M&Ms.

Um, I saw other stuff, and like I said, NewTek's reel is about a million
times better than Kinetix's.
--Brian

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>According to Dave Hibsher, NT Tech Writer, on the mail list, Alpha
>owners upgrade free.

Well, that wasn't in the booth, but I would hope that anyone that payed
the $1995 or more price it was temporarily at, would get a free upgrade.
--Brian

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Anyone looking to sell a used copy of LW4.0 Intel. I am happy to pay
shipping to UK.

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Henri Smulders wrote:
>
> Hi, just downloaded nod1demo.zip from the newtek ftp site and it
> is a blazingly fast standalone renderer for LW. (Not really standalone;
> it uses screamernet.) This is a really cool tool if you have LW but
> only one CPU. I just tested it out and am looking forward to taking my
> dongle home; build scenes for fun and then render them out while I'm
> gone. It is incredibly fast as a rendering engine. Really cool; go get
> it!
>
> Hajo    One more thing to show how fast it is: I'm rendering the
spacfightwer scene out while writing this at 5 secs per frame (640x480,
no AA)This is with the standard setup of the demo scene (particle blur
etc...). Note: the demo does not allow anti-aliasing or non-square
(=NTSC) pixels. However without these it should be a MAJOR improvement
for the work I do at home. (Means I finally can get rid of Truespace at
home and work with a real animation program.)
    I'm going to testrender the textures scene as it comes out of
the box now.
 Rendering time with:    node1        :38 secs
            :    LW standard    :59 secs

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From: [e-mail] (Chris Golchert)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
Date: 17 Apr 1996 03:23:30 GMT
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Blake Porter ([e-mail]) wrote:
: A NAB baiting Tactic?
: Just spoke w/ NewTek, it seems there was a problem w/ documentation
: printing or whatever.   LW 5.0 IS NOT SHIPPING ...it's NewTek what did you
: expect?
: Look for 5.0 in '97

I placed my order for 5.0 today I was told that they are not shipping
from 60 DAYS.  They need to wait for the covers and the boxes to be
printed and they are releasing them all at the same time except for the
DEC and I thought the big T said the MIPPS ?????  The Mac version was to
be announced today (Tues).  Credit cards will NOT be charged for 60 days.



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From: [e-mail] (Mark Craig)
Subject: What is the song on one of the NewTek VT demo videos?
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Please email me any responses (our news service isn't very reliable)...

I know this has nothing to do with this group, other than the fact that it
is NewTek related.  But, can anyone tell me the name (and name of the group)
of the synth-instrumental song on NewTek's Video Toaster demonstration video
"Revolution:  A Demonstration of the Video Toaster" (it's the second part
that was added later to show the new abilities of the latest release (2.0)).
It's rather fast paced (tempo I guess)... some parts sound like an eagle (or
some other bird) screaching... fast drum-like beat all throughout, and lots
of sudden clashes (can't think of a better word)... and kind of an erie sound
(although it's not meant to be an erie song)...  I guess it could be considered
"on the run/chase" music.  It was also used on a commercial on PBS for NOVA or
some other science/nature show.  It was also used in the 1990 movie "Nuns on
the Run" (with Eric Idle) - that movie has a lot of songs by Yello, but I don't
know if this song is by Yello.  From the movie credits (which were hard to see
on a TV) I got the following songs: The Race, Hawaiian Chance, Another Race,
Moon On Ice, Dr. Van Steiner, On the Run, Gold Rush (all by Yello) and
Comin' to You, Goin' out of my head, Roll with It, Blow Away, Sacred Heart
(by groups I couldn't read)

PS. To NewTek:  Nice choice of music - it really adds to the "Wowness Factor"
if you know what I mean :-)

Thanks for any help you can give me...  Please email me responses (our news
service isn't very reliable)...

Mark Craig
[e-mail]
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In article <[e-mail]> "Arjan R. Brussee" <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: "Arjan R. Brussee" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: US Price of latest Lightwave?
>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:35:39 +0200

>HI All

>does someone know a price/mail order distributor of LW4 in the USA?

>I'd hate to pay the local prices here, but want that program!

>thanks

>-arjan


It's about 800 $ for 4.0 and about 1400$ for 5.0 (as seen at the NAB).

Dan Zimmerman
EuroTech Productions



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From: [e-mail] (Warren Vosper)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: plugin development kit
Date: 17 Apr 1996 20:48:07 GMT
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anyone know how much the plugin development kit for LW 4.0 is?
newtek doesn't have a price on their web page.

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In article <[e-mail]>, Jack Walsh <[e-mail]> writes:
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|>From: Jack Walsh <[e-mail]>
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|>Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
|>Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 08:09:33 -0700
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|>I don't think LW users are a huge concern of Autodesk. Autodesk though,
|>is a huge concern of NewTek. Good Luck NewTek, you're gonna need it!
|>
|>Jack
|>
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|>I don't think LW users are a huge concern of Autodesk. Autodesk though,
|>is a huge concern of NewTek. Good Luck NewTek, you're gonna need it!
|>
|>Jack
|>
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|>I don't think LW users are a huge concern of Autodesk. Autodesk though,
|>is a huge concern of NewTek. Good Luck NewTek, you're gonna need it!
|>
|>Jack
|>
  Well, looks like NewTek just got some of that good luck.

Subject: NAB Announcement #3
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 96 16:50:47
From: [e-mail] (Tech Support)
Organization: NewTek Technical Support
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave

                NAB-003
CONTACT:        Jim Parsons (NewTek)    RELEASE DATE:  April 15, 1996
                [phone]
                Hollie Wendt (Communications Consultant)
                [phone]
00000000000000NEWTEK DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIP WITH APPLE AND SUN00000000000000
Best-Of-Breed Trio To Develop Digital Video Tools
National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), Las Vegas, NV -- NewTek, Inc.
today announced that NewTek, Apple Computer, Inc., and Sun Microsystems
Computer Company (SMCC) are exploring a relationship to develop a broad range
of digital 3D animation and video production tools.  The target audience for
these tools will be the largest group of digital content creators, including
professionals in feature and broadcast video, that purchase tools primarily in
the $ 3000 to $ 30,000 range.

According to Tim Jenison, Chairman and Founder of NewTek, "This collaboration
would unite the companies that currently lead the desktop video, desktop
graphics, and Internet server markets.  The resulting technology opportunities
will enable us to create a new era of high-quality, low-cost, easy to use
products for digital media creation that will benefit audiences from event
videographers, to New York boardrooms, to Hollywood studios."
According to NewTek, technology sharing could be a key ingredient of the
relationship.   NewTek will support Apple's QuickDraw( 3D format for viewing
changes to graphic objects in real-time.  Used in conjunction with LightWave
3D( from NewTek, users of QuickDraw 3D gain a real-time shading capability
that supports the creation of highly realistic animation.  NewTek will also
utilize Sun's Java( development language, which has been positioned as the
"Internet language" based on its strengths in building applications and its
ability to download software across a network in a secure manner.
-- more --

NewTek Developing Relationship with Apple and Sun
                             2/2/2
Use of Java enables the development of digital media creation products
designed for the Internet environment.
Additional technology sharing could include NewTek's support for Apple's
QuickTime( VR, use of NewTek tools by Sun and Apple to create OEM and turnkey
solutions, exploration of future technologies in video production and related
opportunities, and various co-marketing and sales activities.
New Apple Port
One initial outcome of the relationship will be the port of NewTek's LightWave
3D 5.0 animation system to Apple PowerMac( computers.  The port will bring
broadcast quality animation to a wide variety of business and educational
applications, enhancing the ability of users to communicate ideas visually.
"Macintosh systems are leading platforms for creative applications in all
markets -- education, business, publication, and entertainment," said Satjiv
S. Chahil, Senior Vice President of Corporate Marketing for Apple.  "NewTek's
product for the Macintosh platform promises many exciting applications in the
area of digital content production."
Developing with Sun's Java
Sun brings a large installed base in commercial markets, where visualization
is a key component, to the relationship, as well as the Java development
language.  NewTek's choice of Java as a development language will take full
advantage of the capabilities of the UltraSPARC( workstation and Ultra 1
Creator 3D Graphics Accelerator.  Java's write-once-run-everywhere capability,
along with its easy accessibility, have propelled the software and Internet
communities to embrace it as a de facto standard for writing applications for
complex networks.
"We expect that a technology-sharing relationship with NewTek will yield yet
another explosion of Internet applications, this time in creating digital
media tools.  We're excited that a company such as NewTek, who has been
involved in the creation of productions such as Star Trek, Babylon 5, The
Simpsons, and Goldeneye, is embracing the Java technology,"  said Carl Wolf,
Vice President Business Development for Sun.
-- more --
NewTek Developing Relationship with Apple and Sun
                             3/3/3
LightWave 3D > Photo-realistic Animation
LightWave 3D carries on the price/performance standard started by the Video
Toaster(.  At $1495, LightWave 3D has the most comprehensive feature set of
any 3D program, providing workstation performance at a PC price.  Due to its
unparalleled rendering quality and ease of use, LightWave 3D is the artist's
choice for creating special effects for popular televisions shows, feature
films, and commercials, as well as graphics for corporate videos, video games,
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Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
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|>>   is released nobody has it. Particles, gravity ect are present today in
|>>   third party software. Interactive lighting ? I need this explaine to me
|>>   as I am not sure what it means/offers. Can this be accopmlished with
|>>   Camera/light envelopes ? Also remember before MAx these people thought 3DS
|>>   the better program, that has to make me wonder.
|>>     FWIW There is an article on MAX in the latest 3D mag(not worth much as I
|>>   can't recall the name, maybe 3D design ?) to hit the market. I'll get the
|>>   name from my dealer. It showed the new features, some screen shots etc.
|>>   Looked good . But seeing as I still have a lot of LW features I haven't
|>>   used yet(really many more that seem to crop up here) I'm not interested.
|>>   -bill
|>
|>Interactive lighting means that you can manually adjust the lights settings while seing the results on your scene
|>interactivelly. This is usually accomplished through some sort of Open GL algorythm or else.
|>
|>Jean-Eric,
  Thanks for the info I Found this under the features list for LW 5.0

* Open GL support for real time shaded views. Includes support for up to 8
interactive lights   (Distant,  Point, or Spot). Acknowledges surface
attributes such as Diffusion, Specularity, Luminosity, Outline Only, and
Smoothing.
 Of course mt Amiga does not support open GL so it is still a moot point for
 me.
   -bill

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In article <4koqnm$[e-mail]>, Steph Greenberg <[e-mail]> writes:
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|>From: Steph Greenberg <[e-mail]>
|>Newsgroups: comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.animation
|>Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
|>Date: 13 Apr 1996 11:11:02 -0700
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|>Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> wrote:
|>: Jeff Jasper wrote:
|>: think LightWave will be pretty stable. LightWave 4.0 also suffered a
|>: complete platform change. The Amiga is a very different machine from the
|>: PC. Now that the transition is complete, I think LW will be a formidable
|>: piece of software.
|>
|>The question is this: is the PC now Lightwave's primary development
|>platform? In other words, what will come first, the next PC version of LW
|>or the Amiga version? I just can't help but think that Newtek's former
|>Amiga fanaticism affects how they look at the PC. That fanaticism led
|>them to make some very bad decisions a couple of years ago that still
|>affect them.
|>
|>In other words, is the Amiga now the platform that gets a port of LW,
|>after everything is finished on the PC?
|>
|>And what is Newtek doing to get ALL of its plugin vendors off the Amiga
|>and onto the PC? One thing about Autodesk: their commitment and loyalty to
|>the PC and NT platforms is unquestionable. Their programmers do not feel
|>a need to go through a cleansing ritual to wash the stench of Microsoft
|>from their fingers every time they code on a PC.
|>
|>: Jean-Eric Hénault
|>: CG Animator
|>
|>--
|>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>Steph Greenberg              "Whenever I truly think something can't be
|>[e-mail]            done, that is when I redouble my efforts to
|>                  prove myself wrong."
|>
|>Copyright 1996. All Rights Reserved. Permission granted for non-commercial
|>electronic republication only, such as Usenet and Email, and
|>non-commercial educational purposes such as charge free WWW pages.
|>Express permission is required for any other use. When in doubt, ask.
|>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>
   Steven,
   Trust me th PC/Alpha versions are NewTeks primary concerns as far as I
 can tee and as an Amiga user you can rest assured I know!
  -bill

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Subject: Question about 5.0
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Does it have volumetric lighting?  Seems that that is one of the
hot features these days (Strata, Electric Image, 3DS Max, POV are
all on the volumetric bandwagon).  Com'on, I want DETAILS!

-- Prem
---------------------------------------------------------
Prem Subrahmanyam
[e-mail]
Home Page: http://dev.uol.com/~prem/index.html
Programmer, graphics designer, fossil nut extraordinaire.
"Have you seen my trilobites today?"
- http://dev.uol.com/~prem/fossil.html

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From: [e-mail] (Keith Christopher)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NT_AVI Plugin problem
Date: 17 Apr 1996 20:57:10 GMT
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: So I've added this line:
: Plugin AnimSaverHandler NT-AVI(.avi) C:\NEWTEK\plugin\layout\nt_avi.p
: NT-AVI(.avi)


Does this plugin exist for DEC Alpha LW ?



Keith

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From: [e-mail] (Scott Adams)
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    Hey...

    I know NewTek doesn't directly offer student discounts.  However,
  I was wondering if some netizen out there might know whether or not
  Journey or one of the other student-discount places carries Lightwave,
  and the current price for 4.0 (I doubt they have 5.0 yet).  Also, if
  somebody knows the number for Journey or whoever carries it, I'd sure
  appreciate it.  Thanks in advance!

                -Scott A.


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From: [e-mail] (Keith Christopher)
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: Perhaps they haven't seen how fast it isn't..... Java's got a fuck of a
: long way to go before you can rewrite LW with it. On the other hand,
: it'd make an excelent built in macro language.

: Gwynne.

I think it was talking about the speed of the Sun Ultra 1 3D creator,
having one on my desk I can vouch for the speed of the machine. I'd love
to have LW running there !



Keith Christopher


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Subject: Re: WIN95 better than OS/2 PLEASE!!!!
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[e-mail] (Cory Tucker) wrote:

>Here's where you show your silliness best.  The only time my OS/2
>486DX4-100 with 24Mb churned the disk severely was during boot up, and
>that was due to the fact that it was creating the 25Mb swapper.dat
>file.  Have you tried NT on a 486 with only 24Mb?

I am typing this on a Intel 486-80 running NT with a mere 16 megs of RAM!!!
WIth Service Pack #4, NT blazes. almost as fast as Linux and faster than Win 3.11
(16-bit apps)

--
Ben Cannon. [e-mail]
____________________________________________________________
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Harlock)
Newsgroups: rec.video.production,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
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FOR SALE - TRUEVISION ATVista card w/YUV<>RGB transcoder, Monitor

Everything you need to use the ATVISTA as a component paintbox w/machine
control:  (Use as TARGA buffer for lightwave, or direct rendering with
3Ds too)

*  TrueVision 4MB ATVista 32-bit framebuffer card

*  VMX daughterboard which contains 4mb of additional program/data
   memory and 2 high speed serial ports.  (for VLAN control)

*  Novablox dual video transcoder:  RGB to YUV component for output,
   and YUV to RGB for input.    (It's two transcoders in one)

*  19" JVC RGBS multiscan monitor - supports all ATVista screenmodes
   Complete percise calibration controls in the rear to adust to the
   screenmode you'll be using the most.  (more than just H/V stretch
   and move, this is an industrial monitor)

*  All nessesary RGB cabling to feed between the card, transcoder and
   monitor

*  Truevision TIPS 2.1 paint software.

*  Videomedia VLAN software original disks

*  ATVista technical reference, user guide, TIPS 2.1 user manual, and
   JVC monitor manual.   All nessesary software.

*  Crystal 3D software (I haven't used or tested it) which supports
   the ATVista card directly.
---
For those not familiar with the product,
   It's a 32-bit framebuffer card for AT/DOS machines that does up to
   1024 X 768 X 32 bit, has RGB ins and outs.  Using the TIPS paint
software
   it very much feels like a Quantel paintbox or similar device. (used
   with a sketchpad)   Programs such as 3D Studio support it directly
   for rendering.  Geared towards NTSC graphics on up to all-digital
   presentations. (see http://www.truevision.com for more stuff/info)
   Loads and saves TARGA format, so you can easily use it with Lightwave.
---
Asking $1500 for the whole lot.  WAY less than the new price of an
ATVista card BY ITSELF!! The transcoder, monitor, VMX card w/memory and
additional software  are worth quite a bit by themselves.

Split shipping on the Novablox and the vista card, COD, and...

I will NOT ship the monitor, it's one of the heaviest 19" monitors
I've ever lifted, if you want it, you'll have to pick it up locally
(San Francicsco Bay Area) otherwise, the card can use any analog RGB
monitor that will scan down to 15khz with seperate RGBS ins or an
RGBS > SVGA D-SUB cable adaptor.

Local buyers will be given priority, but I'll accept offers from anywhere
in the United States.  If you are local, you can come check it out and
see it working before you buy it.

Email all serious inqueries to [e-mail].

--Mike



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Could anybody tell me if the mailing list is still running?
havn't had a single message since last friday (now thursday am)
thanks in advance.
Geoff


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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
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This press release is nutty like you read about.....more info on my NAB
page...

_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm

A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON!
ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING

Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm

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From: Jeff Holinski <[e-mail]>
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Dave Chin wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (VirtualBri) Scribed in electrons:
>
> <snip>

>
> It says on the box that it now has Metaball modeling. I couldn't get anyone
> at the booth to demonstrate it. I kinda got the feeling, while talking to
> the NT experts, that many of the plugins are for new animators.
>

I'd take the feature list on the box with a grain of salt. Remember the claim that 4.0 would save
Flics?

Jeff H...

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Holinski)
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Now that LW 5 has been shown at NAB and a couple of people have even bought
their upgrades, how about some details on the improved bones Newtek mentioned.

Can you finally build a human where the arm bone doesn't pull the ribs when
you move it. (eg. can bones be set to ignore certain surfaces)

Also, does it save AVI's yet?


Jeff H...


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From: [e-mail] (Fernando Martins)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Amiga LW5 has same features as other platforms ?
Date: 18 Apr 1996 01:06:18 GMT
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>Are all these features in the Amiga version to ?
>Why does the Amiga upgrade cost less ?

If I remember correctly, the Amiga version is less expensive because it
doesn't have OpenGL support (for obvious reasons) nor multithreading
capabilities (for obvious reasons too!).

__________________________________________________________________________
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      Graphics               (sorry, no english yet...)
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In article <4kvrbv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (domenico marino) wrote:
>Is there anyone who have bought "The Fx kit for Lightwave book" ????
>I have send Two faxes to Light-Speed to have more informations on it
>and how to buy it.... but nothing......
>Is there anyone who tell me how can I buy it ????
>I live in Italy.....
>

They're probably busy grading all the entries to the animation contest.  :)


regards,        v   v  **************************************
Rob K. Williams        (. .)  *  AmigaDOS:  The OS my Pentium 100  *
a.k.a. scorpio          8    *  wants to run, when it grows up!   *
LIGHTWAVE RULES!    @_|    **************************************

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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
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Subject: Re: Question about 5.0
Date: 17 Apr 1996 21:47:22 -0400
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>Does it have volumetric lighting?

Nope.
--Brian

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From: "Michael J. May" <[e-mail]>
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Chris Golchert wrote:
>
> Blake Porter ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : A NAB baiting Tactic?
> : Just spoke w/ NewTek, it seems there was a problem w/ documentation
> : printing or whatever.   LW 5.0 IS NOT SHIPPING ...it's NewTek what did you
> : expect?
> : Look for 5.0 in '97
>
> I placed my order for 5.0 today I was told that they are not shipping
> from 60 DAYS.  They need to wait for the covers and the boxes to be
> printed and they are releasing them all at the same time except for the
> DEC and I thought the big T said the MIPPS ?????  The Mac version was to
> be announced today (Tues).  Credit cards will NOT be charged for 60 days.

I ordered the 5.0 upgrade thru Newtek today, and was told that it would
be 4 - 6 weeks, and that it would probably not be that long.

Mike

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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart)
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In a message dated Thu, 18 Apr 1996 01: [e-mail] writes:

W> I've a little Problem with the NT_AVI Plugin.

W> If I want to choose the NT_AVI Plugin in the Record Menu
W> I get this error message:  Activation failed:  code -2

W> I've added the plugin in the options menu like all the others,
W> but there was no entry in my lw.cfg file.

W> So I've added this line:
W> Plugin AnimSaverHandler NT-AVI(.avi) C:\NEWTEK\plugin\layout\nt_avi.p
W> NT-AVI(.avi)

W> I'd appreciate if anyone can help me with this.

     Can't help but if it's any consolation, I can't get the NT-AVI saver
to show up either. This is after several attempts to "re-install" all the
win '95 crap. It just dosen't want to appear. Let me know if you find
a solution. Right now Lightwave hasn't produced an animation in four
months. Some 3D animation program...

Christopher

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tech Support) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Tech Support)
>Subject: NAB Announcement #2
>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 96 16:49:32

>                NAB-002
>CONTACT:        Jim Parsons (NewTek)    RELEASE DATE:  April 15, 1996
>                [phone]
>                Hollie Wendt (Communications Consultant)
>                [phone]
>°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°NEWTEK ANNOUNCES LIGHTWAVE VERSION 5.0°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

Well golly gosh.  Its for real!!!  Well NewTek did manage to keep this under
their hats pretty darn well.  Anyway congrats to NewTek for pulling it off.
I'm really glad.  I can't wait to see what the features really are.


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
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In article <4l1o7i$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chris Golchert) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Chris Golchert)
>Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
>Date: 17 Apr 1996 03:23:30 GMT

>Blake Porter ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: A NAB baiting Tactic?
>: Just spoke w/ NewTek, it seems there was a problem w/ documentation
>: printing or whatever.   LW 5.0 IS NOT SHIPPING ...it's NewTek what did you
>: expect?
>: Look for 5.0 in '97

>I placed my order for 5.0 today I was told that they are not shipping
>from 60 DAYS.  They need to wait for the covers and the boxes to be
>printed and they are releasing them all at the same time except for the
>DEC and I thought the big T said the MIPPS ?????  The Mac version was to
>be announced today (Tues).  Credit cards will NOT be charged for 60 days.

AAAAAAAARGH!!!!  And I was just patting them on the back.  Someone please tell
NewTek what the difference between IS and WILL BE is.  Their announcement
posted here today said that LW50 IS available at dealers.  You would think
that they would at least ammend the announcement.



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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4l39er$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Vaibhav Goel) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Vaibhav Goel)
>Subject: Re: MAX or Lightwave? How about some MAX here folks.
>Date: 17 Apr 1996 13:23:39 -0400

>In article <[e-mail]>,
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>On 4/13/96 10:25PM, in message <[e-mail]>, Tim Krego
>><[e-mail]> wrote:

>>That's why they show the dozens of TV shows, etc. that are using it.
>> Certainly Steven Spielberg saw it as a professional piece of software.
>>If it's good enough for him, it's more than likely good enough for the
>>average hobbyist or professional.


>You know if I had a nickel for each time a Lightwave user suggests to a
>newbie who is interested in purchasing a 3D software that Lightwave would
>be the program for him and the only reason he can give is "oh well its
>being used extensively in the TV industry; just look at B5, Space and
>other shows", I'd have enough cash to buy that brand new 96 Suzuki
>GSXR-750 :)

I don't know what a GSXR-750 is or how much it costs.  But if it is a
motorcycle and costs around $5000 then that means you would have to have seen
this suggestion 100,000 times.  So you are exaggerating then?

Anyway, the flaw in the argument that you mentioned is primarily that he
didn't mention price (or you didn't bring that part over in the quote).  The
fact that LW is used in a lot of TV shows is a good argument for saying that
it is LIKELY to be more than good enough for the AVERAGE hobbyist or
professional.

Sure there are other arguments, but that particular argument is a particular
good one.



>Regards,
>Vaibhav

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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
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On 15 Apr 1996 19:29:25 GMT, [e-mail] (John Foust) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] says...
>>
>>Before everyone starts flaming my subject line, hear me out.  I am a
>>legitimate user and OWNER of NewTek's Lightwave 4.0C for Windows (and
>>I have a valid Serial Number on my Dongle too).  This morning, however,
>>my dongle died (AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME GOD DAMMIT).  I am sick of
>>this bullshit.  I spent $800 on a product that self-destructs, and also
>>prohibits me from using my printer.
>
>Maybe put the dongle on a second parallel port, I'd guess
>that your printer is killing the dongle.   Buy a $30-or-less
>add-on serial/parallel board.
>
>- John

>
that didnt work for me but...might for him dont know?? BUT i do have a
i know i know crack for needing the dongle .....if anybody thinks i
pirated this great 3d package they can byte me i spent alot of college
$ i shouldnt have..:) but my dongle died to so i broke down and asked
my friend to find me a crack ..i laughed as i said it he came back 2
days l8r with a crack and it works great
no more dongle ..
  so flame me but i am gonna ask
  if anybody need this crack let me know  i will be happy to post it
poolman




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From: [e-mail] (Mike Powell)
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Guustaaf Damave ([e-mail]) wrote:
: After some reconfiguring of my system layout and modeler do not 'see' my dongle anymore.
: Which drivers need to be installed where to make them work again?

: Any help and suggestions welcome.

    I don't think that there are any drivers needed for W95...
    I think that only NT used drivers for that...

    There has been a rash of dongle failures lately.

    Upgrade your lightwave to Rev C if you have not done so
    already... If the dongle is bad, Layout will work, but
    Modeler will not.

    Good luck.

    -mp-

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From: [e-mail] (JKrause357)
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IF I HAVE THE LATEST SOFTWARE 4.1 WITH A FLYER, DO I NEED THIS LATEST NEW
TOASTER SOFTWARE THAT JUST CAME OUT AT N.A.B.????

PLEASE E-MAIL ME IF YOU KNOW

THANKS

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From: [e-mail] (Fusion Films)
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: I'd take the feature list on the box with a grain of salt. Remember the claim that 4.0 would save
: Flics?

: Jeff H...

Modeller 5.0 DOES have metaballs - I haven't had much time to play around
with them, but they do exist ;-)


( boy I just re-read that and it sounds a bit perverted)

Paul

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Well put Bob, just what I feel about it all...

[e-mail] (Bob Clary) wrote:

>Once again I see people getting emotional and calling each other names
>over computer software. Come one guy's, it's a bunch of bits. This is
>a pile of ephemeral ones and zeros. Isn't there more important stuff
>to get worked up over.

>The folks who say OS/2 sucks are not idiots, it does suck. The folks
>who say Win95 sucks aren't morons it also sucks.

>OS/2 sucks, Win95 sucks, MVS sucks, VMS sucks, MACs suck, PCs suck -
>it all sucks.
>-
>This is what I get paid for. It's my job to take this sucky stuff and
>make it  work for my clients. To me the best operating system is the
>one I'm getting paid on.

>OS/2 is great, Win95 is great, MVS is great, VMS is great, MACs are
>great, PCs are great - it's all great.
>-
>When I've done my job!

>Discussing technical aspects of one operating system over another is
>an important part of evaluating and deciding on an operating system,
>but it's not the whole picture.

>The choice of products involves lot's of issues. While one operating
>system may be technologically advanced over another, market share and
>availability of apps may be an overiding factor. Other things like
>existing expertise and legacy applications could be another issue.

>---------------------
>Bob Clary
>Enterprise Consulting
>[e-mail]
>---------------------


Kevin W. Gagel
[e-mail]

Prince George, B.C.
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From: [e-mail] (InstntGuts)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
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<Kinetix (the new Autodesk arm for MAX) was much more active and uptempo,
although I have to say, their demo reel was unimpressive, in some places
looking like early 80s CGI out of colleges, and all their demo people
seemed to be fixated on volumetric lighting, which although nice, isn't
worth the price.>

That's probably because Autodesk specifically wanted to do a MAX-only
reel, and since MAX existed only in beta form until now, it was
*extremely* difficult for people to simultaneously beta-test the software,
contribute bug reports, work at whatever jobs they had, *and* contribute a
shot to the reel in only a few months. I managed to get in one shot (the
"heaven" shot at the end, with the mushrooms and the angels) -- and
juggling that, my regular 3D contract work, and a MAX special effects book
that I'm writing was *extraordinarily* difficult. Therefore, it's an
inexact comparison to compare a reel containing work being done on various
versions of LW software that's been out for years, with a reel made with
MAX beta software, by beta testers, in the span of a couple of months.
Considering the circumstances, Autodesk should be applauded that they had
*any* kind of MAX demo reel at NAB.

When MAX is in the hands of many more people doing production, for a long
period of time, you'll see quite a bit more impressive stuff, as one would
expect. (And yep, I expect volumetric light effects to become the "lens
flare" of the 3D Studio MAX side.)

No flames or software comparisons, please; I'm only mentioning this to
clarify the situation, not to start another "us vs. them" war that wastes
the good time of both Lightwave and 3D Studio users. Instead, let's all go
out there and do cool work -- no matter what software we use!

-- Jon

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[e-mail] ([e-mail]) writes:

>that didnt work for me but...might for him dont know?? BUT i do have a
>i know i know crack for needing the dongle .....if anybody thinks i
>pirated this great 3d package they can byte me i spent alot of college
>$ i shouldnt have..:) but my dongle died to so i broke down and asked
>my friend to find me a crack ..i laughed as i said it he came back 2
>days l8r with a crack and it works great
>no more dongle ..
>  so flame me but i am gonna ask
>  if anybody need this crack let me know  i will be happy to post it
>poolman

Poolman:

The problem is this:  I bought version 4.0c, and the dongle elimator
only works on version 4.0a.  So, it turns out that dongle cracks don't
work because it is impossible for me to get a copy of 4.0a Lightwave.  I
asked my dealer if I could trade-in my 4.0c CD for a 4.0a CD, but he
claimed he didn't have any copies, and couldn't get anymore.  Guess I
am shit-out-of-luck.  :(

NewTek is going to have a hard sell to get me to pay $500 dollars to
upgrade to version 5.0.  If I hadn't already dumped my time and cash
into Lightwave, I would have considered 3D-Studio 4, which my school
sells for $689!  Cheaper than the $800 I paid.

Jason M. Cahill

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Well golly gosh.  Its for real!!!  Well NewTek did manage to keep this
under
their hats pretty darn well.
----------------------------------------

No they didn't - we've been talking about it for a couple of  weeks
here...
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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW snubbed again!
Date: 18 Apr 1996 04:27:51 -0400
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 Newtek could use a damage control specialist...
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I used to have this job.....then I became damage....


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From: [e-mail] (Franz Muller)
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Subject: import-plugin
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Which files are responsible for the import of *.3ds files into LightWave 4.0?

Thank you for replying.

Franz



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From: John Back <[e-mail]>
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j> LHA is a compression scheme like PKzip. You need the program 'lha'
> which is freely available in Amiga and PC formats.
> You need to get this program (LHA), install it, then extract the object
> files from their LHA archives.
> JS

Hey!  I have been plagued with the long file name and
directory name problem for ages - ie: extracting LHA files
under DOS and maintaining the long names!

All my old amiga stuff is rendered immediately inoperable -
have to manually rename and reconstruct every archive and
file :)

Now that I'm using Win95 (never found a solution under OS/2 either!)
does anyone know of a way around this? WinZip for Win95 has a large
bug concerning this - ie: it COULD do it but DOESN'T cause it shells
the process completely instead of manually extracting each file in turn
and using simple debugging to rename and render the output correctly. (whoops,
using render in a different sense in this newsgroup could be
punishable by DEATH?!)

See you later and happy rendering!

POST your solutions for a free WARM and FUZZY feeling.

eheheheh

[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (RobAnims)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 Ships Tomorrow
Date: 18 Apr 1996 06:34:53 -0400
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Just recently we received the upgrade of 4.0Alpha (february).

Does this mean we will get 5.0 FREE!!!!

Digital Animatics
Narration & Animation

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From: [e-mail] (Eki Tapola)
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Fernando Martins ([e-mail]) wrote:

: If I remember correctly, the Amiga version is less expensive because it
: doesn't have OpenGL support (for obvious reasons) nor multithreading
: capabilities (for obvious reasons too!).

    Can you please specify why the Amiga version hasn't got
    multithreading ? With Real 3D it's the other way round,
    only the Amiga version had proper multithreading compared
    to the Windows version (at least a few years ago).
--
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testing!!!!!!

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From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
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Subject: Re: Toaster
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Shadowbird <[e-mail]> writes:

>OK, you Newtek people---is there any truth to the whole Toaster for
>Windows thing?  I saw it on the WWW page, but have never heard of
anything
>like it.  What exactly does that entail?

Like most NewTek and other computer products it was announced way to
early.   The T4W is still being developed.   We may see it by the end of
the year.
It is a portable, standalone Non-linear editor that can be controlled by
Windows NT or Windows 95!  The new Video Toaster will be about the size of
a shoebox and will connect to your PC, even a laptop, or your existing
Amiga/Toaster system through a SCSI cable.  NewTek will be making a soft
case and battery pack so it can be used as a record deck in the field, as
well as giving you A/B Roll capabilities in the studio.  Cuts, fades will
be done in real time.  Other transitions will be quickly rendered, using a
special LightWave trick. This will also eliminate the current Toaster's
weakest link, the blocky compression on digital effects.  The new PC
Toaster will have it's own built-in TBC with Y/C in.  The PC Toaster will
include a Flyer board, and will come in two versions, the basic version
will be $7,995.  A Professional version will be available for $9,995, with
a built-in control module, a 5.6" LCD Monitor screen, and control buttons
on the front, which is on one of the small ends.    In the field, the Pro
model can be operated entirely from it's front panel LED controls.  It can
even perform basic editing and clip management on the fly.  If you already
have a Flyer, NewTek will be selling both versions without a Flyer for $5K
less.
    There's more great news for current Toaster owners, the current
version of the Flyer hardware will work in this new box!  That means that
if you move up to the Flyer now, you won't be buying any technology with
an uncertain future.  Regardless of how the Amiga situation plays out, you
will be able to move your present Flyer card & hard drives into the new
Toaster when it is released.  As a matter of fact, the Flyer will be the
brains of the new Toaster.  That's part of the reason the Flyer took so
long to get to market.


>Other question---I can't figure out CrossDOS---I have AmigaDOS and
>workbench v2.05, and as I've heard, it should come with the drivers to
>read IBM formatted floppies.  Well, it doesn't.  Am I missing something?

The PC0 driver started being included with WB 2.1.  It's also on the new
3.1.  You can buy stand alone Cross DOS for about 50-60 bucks.

Don



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From: [e-mail] (Bill Leonard)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Whoa!  LW 5.0?! On POWER MACINTOSH!
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In article <4l1mcp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(ProPain) wrote:

> I saw that ad too, and quickly went to the www page at the bottom of
> the ad.
>
> But of course, there was NO mention of 5.0 on the web page.
>
> Come on guys, marketing is getting ahead of your www people.  (nothing
> new)

Hopefull this is true.. pulled it out of a press release:

"New Apple Port
One initial outcome of the relationship will be the port of NewTek's LightWave
3D 5.0 animation system to Apple PowerMac( computers.  The port will bring
broadcast quality animation to a wide variety of business and educational
applications, enhancing the ability of users to communicate ideas visually.
"Macintosh systems are leading platforms for creative applications in all
markets -- education, business, publication, and entertainment," said Satjiv
S. Chahil, Senior Vice President of Corporate Marketing for Apple.  "NewTek's
product for the Macintosh platform promises many exciting applications in the
area of digital content production."

Bill Leonard - [e-mail]
cyber.lab g.f.x.
Orlando, Florida

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From: Angelito So <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: lha difficulties under MSDOS fat...
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:56:55 -0400
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John Back wrote:
> Hey!  I have been plagued with the long file name and
> directory name problem for ages - ie: extracting LHA files
> under DOS and maintaining the long names!

For win95 and NT you can use the lhantx86.exe it is available on tomahawk I
believe if not I think it is in NewTeks ftp. If you want send me private email
and I will email you the exe file. I just tested it out I compressed some
files and uncompressed them back and they retained thier long file names.

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Yes it is still running. And It has been very busy. Maybe you got kicked off
accidentally. Try emailing Dave.

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From: Angelito So <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: plugin development kit
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 10:01:04 -0400
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Warren Vosper wrote:
>
> anyone know how much the plugin development kit for LW 4.0 is?
> newtek doesn't have a price on their web page.

Sure it is FREE!!!! to get it go to
     ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/lw/lwsdk/Main.html
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From: [e-mail] (Vaibhav Goel)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.packages.3dstudio
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Walter (Jay) Turberville  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4l39er$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Vaibhav Goel) writes:

>this suggestion 100,000 times.  So you are exaggerating then?
>

Err...it was a joke.....lighten up a little...

>
>Sure there are other arguments, but that particular argument is a particular
>good one.
>

Lisen, I don't have anything against Lightwave.  I think it probably is a
good software;  its just that *I* don't like it or use it due to my own
personal preferences.  Everyone has their own opinion and I am not trying
to force my opinion on others.

However, what I don't understand is that if someone asks the merits of
Lightwave, I have seen many Lightwave users argue that since its being
used by these TV shows, its the do-all end-all software.  Granted it
might be a good arguement.  But what about a feature-to-feature
grass-roots comparison of different softwares in the same league?  I
haven't seen this happen.  And believe you me, I read the various
newsgroups in the comp.graphics.* hierarchy regularly so I am not
exaggerating in this case.

Many times when someone criticizes Lightwave for whatever valid concern
they might have, the ending argument is "oh well its being used by all these
cool TV shows, so your arguement is flawed".

I am hardly a brand loyalist.  In the past, I have shown my preference to
using Real3D over Lightwave or 3DStudio;  and I have my own reasons of
thinking that its better for me.  I am looking at MAX now and feel that
it has some very good features to offer and a nice interface.  I have
regularly used Alias Animator in the past on an SGI.  Each and every
sotware has its faults;  Real3D's interface could use a bit of work,
3DStudio to me is just not functional without IPASes and so on it goes....
When someone validly points out some things that Lightwave is missing,
why is it so wrong?




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From: [e-mail] (Michael B. Comet)
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In a previous article [e-mail] (Warren Vosper) said:

>
> anyone know how much the plugin development kit for LW 4.0 is?
> newtek doesn't have a price on their web page.

        It's free.  Join the plug in list, and you will be sent info
on how to FTP everything.

        Here is the excerpt fromt he FAQ:

5] How can I write my own Plug-Ins for Lightwave?

You need to get the LightWave Server Developer Kit (LWSDK) which
contains headers, libraries, samples and documentation for plug-in
development.  The LWSDK is available for the Amiga OS, SGI IRIX, and
Win32 on Intel, MIPS and Alpha platforms.

The LWSDK is supported on the "lwplugin-l" mailing list.  To subscribe
to the list, send a message to "[e-mail]" with the message
body (subject is ignored):

        subscribe lwplugin-l <optional-email-address>

You will receive a informational message when you subscribe explaining
the list and how to get the LWSDK by FTP.  To get the informational
message without subscribing, send a message to the same address above
with the message body:

        info lwplugin-l


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From: Solo <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 1000+free 3d demo!
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 10:26:59 -0700
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!!! e-mail us your request for FREE DEMO now!!!

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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
Subject: re: journos snubbed again!
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> In article <4kuk66$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >Once again, in the latest PC Computing magazine,
> >Lightwave is totally ignored.
>
> My guess - that the reviewer(s)/editor(s) called NewTek, left
> a message, and their call was never returned.  :-)

Nah, I can't imagine that would happen. Why would NewTek ignore the
request of a journalist to review their product? Just because it happened
to me and just about everyone else I know, (with the notable exception of
a few Amiga journos, oddly) doesn't mean it's the case in this instance,
does it?

:?)

Actually, I've always had trouble getting NewTek to return my calls,
about ANYTHING, even when I wasn't after product to review. I mean, you
can see their point. I only work for the biggest selling PC magazine in
the UK (150,000 copies per month), the one on which a huge majority of
buying decisions about hardware and software are made, so why should they
return my calls? It's not like my reviews might help them shift any units
or anything.

Okay, so Jeff in Tech support has always been on the case as far as my
technical problems were concerned, and Scott was very attentive for a
month or two. Donetta? Well, I must have left about 15 messages for her,
and she called me once when I was out of my office. Well she *did* call
at 8pm, presumably forgetting for a moment that there is a 5-6 hour time
difference between Topeka and the anywhere in the UK.

Perhaps European sales of Lightwave are unimportant. I got so sick of
cajoling, begging and threatening to (eventually) get a copy of 4.0 that
the news of the impending release of 5.0 gives me a hollow feeling in the
pit of my stomach. There was a time that I just got sent the programs as
they came out, and I got all the help I could have wanted with it. I
don't think it's any coincidence that since the Play folks left I've had
trouble even getting NewTek to talk to me.

I've reviewed Lightwave in three or four mags in the UK, and will
continue to include it in round-ups of 3D software, even though the
market is getting a little crowded. But it still bugs the f**k out of me
that I don't feel that NewTek know or care what I do.

That turned into a rant. Sorry. That previous post must've opened an old
wound. Better get it seen to before it goes all gooey. :?)

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In article <4ku37n$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I would appreciate some honest feedback about how Lightwave 3D
>compares to other 3D packages available today....i.e. ease of use,
>quality of rendering, general features, etc..  Is it worth the extra
>cost for my applications?  Religion aside, would you buy it again?
>
Pick up a copy of the May issue of PC Computing. It has some reviews of several
graphics packages at several price points. It also has a section on recommended
windows95 applications.


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From: [e-mail] (Scott Cook)
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Subject: FOR SALE: 3DSTUDIO R3 > UPGRADABLE
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FOR SALE:

3D Studio R3 completely upgradable/migratable to R4 or MAX.
Includes all manuals, documentation, disks, dongle, receipts,.....
Asking $1000.00 OBO.
I've been using R4 at work now for almost a year and don't need my
personal copy anymore.

Send replies to:
Lead Artist
n-Space, Inc.
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (emmanuel olympia)
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Video Toaster 4000 /040 system for sale

    I am migrating to a  pentium system and need to sell my Amiga 4000
Video.

 Here  are the specs:

 HARDWARE:
 A4000
 16 mb Ram
 1 gig Quantum hard drive
 14" monitor
 mouse
 DPS Par card w/ latest software(already installed)
 1 gig Par Drive

 SOFTWARE:
 Video Toaster 3.1/Lightwave 3.5(all manual included)
 Brilliance
 Dpaint 5
 Scala 4000
 Dpaint 5
 AdPro

 Total price: $4000.00(not including shipping charges)

 Pls. call as soon as possible. First come first serve.  Price is
 somewhat  negotiable.

 Emmanuel Olympia

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From: [e-mail] (Kermit Woodall)
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Subject: Re: Okay....actual NAB info
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Stranahan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Okay, NewTek announced 5.0 - and they are taking orders. (They actually
: have a phone booth in the booth to call in orders - it's cute, actually)
: It has Open GL support in layout and modeler, better IK, and (BIG deal)
: multiple surfaces - you can layer and layer producedural or image mapping.
: The interface has a number of improvements, too....

Great Lee! I've been waiting for a phone booth with an OpenGL interface!

Kermit Woodall
Nova Design, Inc.
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Mark van der Molen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Auto-tracing bitmaps into vector format?
Date: 18 Apr 1996 15:59:21 GMT
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On 10-Apr-96 15:19:28  John Back ([e-mail]) wrote :

>Well, for years I used CorelTrace - part of CorelDraw v.3 and although
>I haven't used it since I imagine it still comes with the newer
>Corel product versions... in some form or other!

>BTW: Vector tracing from bitmaps requires a lot of practice!

Here on my amiga 1200 with pixel 3d pro and stylustracer it's dead easy !

>[e-mail]

Mark



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From: Gwynne Reddick <[e-mail]>
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In article <4l3min$[e-mail]>, Keith Christopher <keithc@welchlin
k.welch.jhu.edu> writes
>
>: Perhaps they haven't seen how fast it isn't..... Java's got a fuck of a
>: long way to go before you can rewrite LW with it. On the other hand,
>: it'd make an excelent built in macro language.
>
>: Gwynne.
>
>I think it was talking about the speed of the Sun Ultra 1 3D creator,
>having one on my desk I can vouch for the speed of the machine. I'd love
>to have LW running there !
>


Sorry, I should have made myself a littie clearer, the first part of my
statement was said with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek. I don't
expect NT are intending to port LW to Java in the very near future, even
with JIT's there is a performance loss over natively compiled code. It
doesn't really matter how small the loss is, it's still a loss. Of
course, lacking anything other than the announcement to go on makes
everything i have said pure speculation, as is my desire for a hardware
java accelerator.

I will say, however, that I'm right behind them and can't wait to find
out more concrete details. Java is a very easy language to get to grips
with, and like a great many other people, I've already been suckered by
the hype - err, fuck you Microsoft :)

Gwynne.

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From: [e-mail] (Denis Loubet)
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Subject: Jumanji vs JP
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In article <[e-mail]> Henri Smulders <[e-mail]> writes:

>        The problem with Jumanji was one of hubris. If you compare actual effects shots of Jumanji with
>Jurassic Park Jumanji is hands down the better one. (Seen the hair on the lion). The problem is that
>animation is not at a level yet were humans get fooled if they can look at it longer than just a flash of a
>second. Jurassic Pasrk (JP) only has a few minutes of dinosaurs in it. The editing is superb! You get the
>feeling that the movie is filled with dino's; while it isn't. The parts where the tricks don't work are the
>raptore in the kitchen (Shot is too long!) and the raptors and Trex in final scene: Interaction is not well
>done.
>        Jumanji wants to SHOW too much and suggest too little. This is not an effects problem; but an
>editing problem. It shows the difference between Spielberg and the other guys Not that ILM suddenly forgot
>everything they knew and now sucks.... (One of the reasons Star-Wars withstands the test of time: Lucas has
>the same feeling for editing).
>        It seems to be a problem a lot of people forget: When looking at babylon 5 or seaquest and thinking
>why doesn't my scene look like this: Editing is big part of it (Sound too) Animators are only a small piece
>of the pie. We must not forget that!
>        Before I stop my rant: I'm not an editor: I've just seen how a bad one can screw up my source
>material and how a good one can make me look at my own material and make me be blown away by it. (Hint: try
>to get friend who is a good editor and another one who is a good sound guy for your demo-tape.) You probably
>think you're very good: Trust me if you're talent is as an animator chances are that you're not that great
>at the other tasks or you'd be extremely exceptional)

>Hajo

Yarg! I have to disagree with your assessment of the animation quality between
the two movies. At no point in Jurassic Park was I able to point at a CG
dinosaur and say "That's moving funny." The CG dinos moved in an intuitively
correct manner.

I could pick out incorrect movements in Jumanji all over the place. The Lion,
despite the fairly good hair, seemed to have a whole lot of extra joints in
his body and moved like a gangley puppet. I understand that the animators
were trying to simulate the complex interplay of muscles as the lion moved,
but for me it didn't work, it just looked funky and fake. The other animals
all had their problems as well. The animators for Jumanji really needed to get
the movements accurate, even more than for JP, because everyone who's watched
a nature video or gone to the zoo, knows how the animals really move. I don't
think they pulled it off.

Cool stuff, though.

Denis Loubet
Senior Artist / Animator
Origin Systems Inc.

(About that crack at the end of your post concerning being very good, perhaps
the original poster IS very exceptional, you have no way to know. It could
have been phrased more politely.)

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From: [e-mail] (Mel Norris)
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Subject: Re: NAB Announcement #3
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:39:45 GMT
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Gwynne Reddick <[e-mail]> wrote:

>clip...<

>doesn't really matter how small the loss is, it's still a loss. Of
>course, lacking anything other than the announcement to go on makes
>everything i have said pure speculation, as is my desire for a hardware
>java accelerator.

Well, I can tell you for sure that Java acceleration is comming.  Sun
announced two (or more) weeks ago the release of native Java
processors.  But the cool thing is, they are licensing the technology
to other manufactures.  Specifically, IBM and Motorola (PowerPC) and
Intel (Pentium).  The silicon footprint for the technology was very,
very small.

So, it comming alot sooner than most people thought!

-Mel Norris
-Resolution Inc


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From: [e-mail] (Dave Chin )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
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Jeff Holinski <[e-mail]> Scribed in electrons:

<my comments about metaballs and other plugins snipped>
>>
>
>I'd take the feature list on the box with a grain of salt. Remember the claim that 4.0 would save
>Flics?
>
>Jeff H...

Yeah, I know what you mean, but they mentioned it at least twice during
their main presentation. It is also mentioned in NewTek's posted NAB
'announcement' here in this news group. I only mention it because they did,
we would like to use it (boy I miss Vertigo), and even Imagine 4.0 has it.

I will say the new box looks much better than the last one :)

--
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Imagine Amation
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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
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Metaballs is totally real in LW 5.0, and works well. My brother Ken has
done some neat stuff with them....

By the way, we'll be announcing a few LW 5.0 videos in the next couple of
days, including stuff on Metaballs/Metanurbs

_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Home Page URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm

A NEW tape/CD-ROM from the Stranahan Brothers is coming SOON!
ACCESS DENIED : THE CRAFT OF VISUAL EFFECTS FILMMAKING

Access DeniedURL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/access.htm

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Chris Golchert wrote:
>
> Blake Porter ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : A NAB baiting Tactic?
> : Just spoke w/ NewTek, it seems there was a problem w/ documentation
> : printing or whatever.   LW 5.0 IS NOT SHIPPING ...it's NewTek what did you
> : expect?
> : Look for 5.0 in '97
>
> I placed my order for 5.0 today I was told that they are not shipping
> from 60 DAYS.  They need to wait for the covers and the boxes to be
> printed and they are releasing them all at the same time except for the
> DEC and I thought the big T said the MIPPS ?????  The Mac version was to
> be announced today (Tues).  Credit cards will NOT be charged for 60 days.-----------
HA HA HA HA HA---I KNEW IT! I was so impressed when told you can order it now(at the NAB monday)
instead of the usual"2nd quarter/2 weeks/any day now/soon" reply and I knew there was a catch.  But
the software is AWESOME and well worth the wait and money.  I too thought the booth was very mellow
considering what they had to show, but I did get to meet Dick Van Dyke(sp?) and that was cool.

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From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NEW TOASTER SOFTWARE QUESTION
Date: 18 Apr 1996 14:43:51 -0400
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In article <4l4j72$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(JKrause357) writes:

>IF I HAVE THE LATEST SOFTWARE 4.1 WITH A FLYER, DO I NEED THIS LATEST NEW
>TOASTER SOFTWARE THAT JUST CAME OUT AT N.A.B.????
>
>

No, it's the same 4.1 software you have on you Flyer.  It's just the
version that runs on a Toaster with no Flyer.

________________________________________________________________________
Don James   The Computer Room    Colorado's Desktop Video Specialists
2760 S. Havana St.  Aurora, CO  80014        [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Tim Krego)
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Subject: Re: NAB Announcement #3
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On 17 Apr 1996 19:51:02 -0400, [e-mail] (Stranahan) wrote:
>This press release is nutty like you read about.....more info on my NAB
>page...

If that was the one on NewTek/Apple/Sun I'd have to agree. That was
not a very good Press Release and was just marketing mumbo-jumbo.

What does NewTek need to screw with Java for?

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From: [e-mail] (Ronnie Norwood)
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>Hey!  I have been plagued with the long file name and
>directory name problem for ages - ie: extracting LHA files
>under DOS and maintaining the long names!

>Now that I'm using Win95 (never found a solution under OS/2 either!)
>does anyone know of a way around this?
>[e-mail]

 Download LHANT from the NewTek site (I believe). It works beautifully.

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Subject: Re: Lightwave crack wanted... (flame on)
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On 18 Apr 96 07:11:40 GMT, [e-mail] (Jason Cahill)
wrote:

>[e-mail] ([e-mail]) writes:
>
>>that didnt work for me but...might for him dont know?? BUT i do have a
>>i know i know crack for needing the dongle .....if anybody thinks i
>>pirated this great 3d package they can byte me i spent alot of college
>>$ i shouldnt have..:) but my dongle died to so i broke down and asked
>>my friend to find me a crack ..i laughed as i said it he came back 2
>>days l8r with a crack and it works great
>>no more dongle ..
>>  so flame me but i am gonna ask
>>  if anybody need this crack let me know  i will be happy to post it
>>poolman
>
>Poolman:
>
>The problem is this:  I bought version 4.0c, and the dongle elimator
>only works on version 4.0a.  So, it turns out that dongle cracks don't
>work because it is impossible for me to get a copy of 4.0a Lightwave.  I
>asked my dealer if I could trade-in my 4.0c CD for a 4.0a CD, but he
>claimed he didn't have any copies, and couldn't get anymore.  Guess I
>am shit-out-of-luck.  :(
>
>NewTek is going to have a hard sell to get me to pay $500 dollars to
>upgrade to version 5.0.  If I hadn't already dumped my time and cash
>into Lightwave, I would have considered 3D-Studio 4, which my school
>sells for $689!  Cheaper than the $800 I paid.
>
>Jason M. Cahill
>
>Replies: [e-mail]

 it should still work guy...i am pretty sure i have 4.0c andlike i
told john if it doesent crack it ..hey at least it might have :)
didnt lose anything trying that is ..because it didnt actually do
anything to the file if it is the wrong version
  oh well i mailed it to john if it worked for him maybe he will let
us know .
 poolman



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        Hi, Mark.

m> Well anyway, if you or someone actually knows of such a technigue, I sure
m> that others would love to know how this is done just as badly as
m> me......thanx

Could you provide some further information:
What is the destination, VCR, harddisc, some fancy tape?

Did you get this mail in the Newsgroup, or via email? (Sincere)

        mfG                                     2:316/76.11
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        Hi, "Glyn.

g> > IMHO, 3ds/r4 has the advantage, of full access to the Computer,
g> > whereas, all NT Software has to deal with the hardware abstraction, and
g> > the security-layer. Let alone, systemtasks and such.
g> > Dont get me wrong, I do prefer a multitaskingenvironment, but
g> > I buy the comfort with speed.
g>
g> You are correct that a large OS like NT has several penalties. NT
g> occupies ram (and needs about 12mb) and it also steals some cycles.
g> (probably about 5%)
That sounds great.
I have to admit, I have no details at hand, but I thought that would
be more.

I have never done much Lighting and such in 3ds, but one question
I cant get out of my mind.
Is it possible?
I found no glow, refraction, flare etc.

Are there some must-see-websites?
(LW and 3ds)

        mfG                                     2:316/76.11
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        Hi, [e-mail].

t> OS/2 Warp is the best os there is that's bullshit about that 5-10 crashes a
t> day, it's much better than fu**ing win95

In case anybody cares, I spent a long time searching, but I simply
can't find anything more stupid than systemfanaticism.

        mfG                                     2:316/76.11
                                                2:316/42.111
        /XX\ Andreas                            [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
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On 17-Apr-96 00:45:18, Shadowbird <[e-mail]> wrote:
>OK, you Newtek people---is there any truth to the whole Toaster for
>Windows thing?  I saw it on the WWW page, but have never heard of anything
>like it.  What exactly does that entail?

  It isn't out yet.  It is basically a Flyer system with a interface for
Windows, and doesn't make use of the Amiga hardware per se. The Flyer itself is
an add-on to it, but the hardware is compatible with the Amiga version.

>Other question---I can't figure out CrossDOS---I have AmigaDOS and
>workbench v2.05, and as I've heard, it should come with the drivers to
>read IBM formatted floppies.  Well, it doesn't.  Am I missing something?

Yes.  It is version 2.1, not 2.05, which always comes with CrossDOS.  I heard
that some 2.05 packages came with it, but all 2.1 and higher have CrossDOS.

If you don't upgrade the OS, or buy the commercial CrossDOS package, there are
several freeware/shareware programs which do the same thing.  CrossDOS is a
little easier to set up.  Look on aminet for them.



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Where oh where on the net can I find a list of hard drives approved
by NewTek for use with the Video Flyer?

If it's a short list could someone please post the approved models
here?

Thanks,
Dave
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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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 On the mailing list it was announced that there is a student price for
LW 5.0 at $849. I don't know anything about a student upgrade price from
4.0 though.

Adam Chrystie

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Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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sheesh the mail system is amazing..I live 40 minutes from LwPro's
offices..wrote two articles that are in the compilation book..and yet, i
still have not gotten it while people in other countries have already
gotten theirs..gotta love teh mystery of teh mail game :)

Adam Chrystie

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Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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From: [e-mail] (LuecKEM)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Lightwave books and CD Rom's where to get in NY
Date: 18 Apr 1996 16:42:25 -0400
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I' m going to New York from 21.04 - 28.04 and i'm looking for some
Lightwave
stuff but don't know where to find it.
Does anybody know major book- or computerstores where to get some stuff.
Please send me an e-mail ( [e-mail]) with adresses and book- or
CD-Rom titles and where to find it.
In Germany you won't find that much.
Thank you for your efforts.
Martin



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From: [e-mail] (tglatz)
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    Before you run out and purchase a PAR (Personal Animation Recorder) or
the new perception card from DPS, here are a few things you should know about
the company .

(1) Customer service is horrible. We have spent 2 days trying to get
    answers regarding the buggy Win-NT drivers. I have left messages via
    voice mail and E-mail and have not recieved any return calls or replies.
    We were told to call the USA tech support which told us to try the Canada
    support line and they gave me a name back at the USA office. Ping pong!
    Both never solved the problem.

(2) Buggy Win-NT driver support for the PAR. We have lost our whole project
    drive after installing and running the New Win-NT software. All the work
    added up to somthing like 800 rendering hours.

    Use the Win-NT drivers at your own risk!


Other related products you might want to look.

Video Toaster Flyer  : Newtek.      WWW.NEWTEK.COM
Targa 2000           : Truevision.  WWW.TRUEVISION.COM
Matrox Video Products: Matrox.        WWW.MATROX.COM




Will not reply to flames.

Have a great day!


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|>    Hey...
|>
|>    I know NewTek doesn't directly offer student discounts.  However,
|>  I was wondering if some netizen out there might know whether or not
|>  Journey or one of the other student-discount places carries Lightwave,
|>  and the current price for 4.0 (I doubt they have 5.0 yet).  Also, if
|>  somebody knows the number for Journey or whoever carries it, I'd sure
|>  appreciate it.  Thanks in advance!
|>
|>                -Scott A.
|>
|>
  Hey, Give NewTek a call. I just saw a blurb on the Mailing list stating
  the student cost for Win NT LW 5.0 was $895.00. I have always spoken
  against Student discounts, but if NewTek supports them and I support them
  I guess I now support the student discount!!!! No price or data was
  announced for the Mac package. I do hope that to qualify students
  have to be enrolled in a LW course at least. I saw no info on what
  makes a student elegelable(sp) for the program. I hope it at least
  requires spelling that is better than mine;-)

  -bill

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|>
|>        Hi, [e-mail].
|>
|>In this thread I heard of a raytracingplugin for 3ds?
|>I know, that is the wrong group, but has anybody some experiance with it?
|>
|>        mfG                                     2:316/76.11
|>                                                2:316/42.111
|>        /XX\ Andreas                            [e-mail]
|>
    Sorry, can't help you here. Have you tried the 3DS list ?

  -bill

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    Before you run out and spend your money on a PAR or the new Perception,
here are a few things you should know about the company.

(1) Customer support is horrible. We have spent 2 days leaving messages
    via E-mail and voice mail. They never called back. We were ping ponged
    between the USA and Canada support lines. Both of them could not help
    us with our problem

(2) Win-NT driver support for the PAR is buggy. After installing and running
    the new software. We lost our whole project drive, everything...sigh'
    Over 800 rendering hours have been lost due to running this flawed
    driver.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Other related products you should look at before you layout your money.
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Video Toaster Flyer: Newtek.      WWW.NEWTEK.COM
Targa 2000           : Truvision.    WWW.TRUVISION.COM
Matrox Video       : Products.    WWW.MATROX.COM
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Have a great day!

PS. Will not respond to flames.

Thanks.


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From: Henri Smulders <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: WANTED LightWave 4.0 Trade
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Prince wrote:
> Will Trade
>         Caligari TrueSapce 2.0 Full Version SN Included
>         3D Studio 4 Missing Inverse Kentics
> Wanted LightWave 4.0 Full Version with SN

    Truespace with ScreamerNet. Cool As far as I knew Truespace never had a network renderer/.
I guess I'm really stupid; or you have no clue what you're talking about.
    3Ds without IK? Would that miss a dongle too by any chance? Maybe I'm not the stupid one
here.

Hajo

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In article <[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (Millenium) writes:

>The GUI is not very user friendly, and I
>just wasn't impressed with it over all. I will stick with Micro$oft -
>any one else out there have OS/2 horror stories?
>

I have a horror story for your. Yes, I run OS/2 Warp. Three weeks
ago I purchased a 1.62 GIG drive. Afer installing the drive, I divided
it into four parts (2 are HPFS, one FAT and one EXT2) After formating
the HPFS partition I thought I would try to move the programs off of
the first drive (less than 150 meg) so I vould free up some space. I
marrily began gragging the needed dir fron drive C: and dropped them
onto the F: drive. After moveing a half dozen dirs I went to try to update
th path to the icons. To my horror, the paths were already updated!

I hate it when an OS does something as powerful as knowing when apps are
moved on the machine. :)

--

Keith
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From: [e-mail] (Graham McCormick)
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Subject: Lightwave 5
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I am a 3D animator using lightwave for a computer games firm in
England, I have been informed by my boss that a Lightwave 5 upgrade is
available for approx £500, I have not heard anything about this. Is it
true, and where can i get it from, I have been using Lightwave 3D for
about 3 years now and have always upgraded to the newest version as
soon as it is available. My point being that if anyone has any
information please get in touch with me via e-mail. I have been on the
newtek web site but have found no information as to whether this is
true or not! Can someone please reply to this.... Thanks in advance.



Graham McCormick   ( Beyond Reality Ltd. )
E-Mail me -       [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Any good LW books or magazines?
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:22:23 GMT
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>Just started using LightWave 4.0 on Win NT. Does anyone know any good
>books written about this package? And what about some LightWave
>magazines? I'd like to know more details about these topics: like
>prices, addresses where to order, quality of the books/magazines, etc.

Try some of the DESKTOP IMAGES videos by either Lee Stranahan, or better yet, a
little more advanced tapes by Ron "The 3D God" Thornton (B5 fame in case you're
wondering).  These are all very good tapes and bring you thru practically ALL of
the options on Modeler and Layout.

Hope this helps.
Bob


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On 17 Apr 1996 22:52:00 GMT, Ben Cannon <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I am typing this on a Intel 486-80 running NT with a mere 16 megs of RAM!!!
>WIth Service Pack #4, NT blazes. almost as fast as Linux and faster than Win 3.11
>(16-bit apps)

Hmm.. well Now that you are done lying to us, can you explain that PC
magazine tested NT on a p90 with 16 megs RAM and said with only 16
megs (Even with more) it was the SLOWEST thing that they had EVER
seen..  What are you running, NOTEPAD!
Sorry Ben, it just dont cut it..

NT has a 12 meg footprint just to get it off the ground!
16 megs and a dx480.. no way...
IT wont be blazing fast with that config!

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From: Bryant Reif <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Journey / Student Pricing
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:02:31 -0400
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> |>      Hey...
> |>
> |>      I know NewTek doesn't directly offer student discounts.  However,
> |>  I was wondering if some netizen out there might know whether or not
> |>  Journey or one of the other student-discount places carries Lightwave,
> |>  and the current price for 4.0 (I doubt they have 5.0 yet).  Also, if
> |>  somebody knows the number for Journey or whoever carries it, I'd sure
> |>  appreciate it.  Thanks in advance!
> |>
> |>                              -Scott A.
> |>
> |>
>   Hey, Give NewTek a call. I just saw a blurb on the Mailing list stating
>   the student cost for Win NT LW 5.0 was $895.00. I have always spoken
>   against Student discounts, but if NewTek supports them and I support them
>   I guess I now support the student discount!!!! No price or data was
>   announced for the Mac package. I do hope that to qualify students
>   have to be enrolled in a LW course at least. I saw no info on what

That would be very impractical.  I would like to know how many LW courses there
are in our universities and colleges and how many of those are actually supported
by the university.  How could they verify this anyway?  When I bought Photoshop
3.0 I just walked in flashed I.D. and walked out with the software for $250.  I
know of no software package that requires the student to take a course
specifically targeted at that package before allowing a sale.

>   makes a student elegelable(sp) for the program. I hope it at least
>   requires spelling that is better than mine;-)

I'm sure all that is necessary is a valid student I.D.

>   -bill

--

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NAB Announcement #3
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 18:34:14
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No one is planning to rewrite LW with Java.   The primary use will be in the
host interfacing for our multiplatform versions of the "blue box", initially
announced as the Video Toaster for Windows, now termed the Video Toaster
Television-Studio-In-A-Box.
  ========================================================================
  Chuck Baker                        |  TekWorld:  NewTek Tech Support BBS
  Technical Support Online Services  |  telnet address:     bbs.newtek.com
  NewTek, Inc.                       |  modem ports:          913-271-9299
  ========================================================================
  CompuServe:  Go AmigaVend, NewTek; DTVForum, NewTek; GUGRPA, LightWave UG
  AOL: Keyword NewTek                    Email: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Warning: DPS-(Digital Processing Systems Inc.)
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>    Before you run out and purchase a PAR (Personal Animation Recorder) or
>the new perception card from DPS, here are a few things you should know about
>the company .
>
>(1) Customer service is horrible. We have spent 2 days trying to get
>    answers regarding the buggy Win-NT drivers. I have left messages via
>    voice mail and E-mail and have not recieved any return calls or replies.
>    We were told to call the USA tech support which told us to try the Canada
>    support line and they gave me a name back at the USA office. Ping pong!
>    Both never solved the problem.

    I bought a PVR board and have had the EXACT OPPISITE experience.  I had
a problem with something, called tech support and they called me back when I
asked them to.  You should ask for a guy by the name of Phil Horney.  His email
is [e-mail].  He helped me out a lot.


>(2) Buggy Win-NT driver support for the PAR. We have lost our whole project
>    drive after installing and running the New Win-NT software. All the work
>    added up to somthing like 800 rendering hours.

    As for the PVR board.  It work perfectly fine with no problems, maybe
it's something specific to the PAR only board?

later,
Bob


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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 19:15:55
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On Tue 16-Apr-1996 14:23 , Jeff Jasper wrote:
JJ> Blake Porter wrote:
JJ> > A NAB baiting Tactic?
JJ> > Just spoke w/ NewTek, it seems there was a problem w/ documentation
JJ> > printing or whatever.   LW 5.0 IS NOT SHIPPING ...it's NewTek what did
JJ> you
JJ> > expect?
JJ> > Look for 5.0 in '97

JJ> I find it hard to believe that a problem with the documentation would
JJ> delay
JJ> them that long. Can anyone else confirm this? From the sound of the
JJ> features,
JJ> Newtek really worked their buns off to stay competitive> Now explain this
JJ> metanurbs thing again... :)

JJ> Jeff


We have shipped LightWave 5.0 packages, but not in quantity yet.  We expect to
ship more next week, and when we have the little ducks (docs, packaging, CDs)
all lined up properly in a row we'll be shipping in quantity.

MetaNURBS is our implementation of modeling using NURBS patches controlled by
a polygon-based cage.   This demonstrates a great deal easier than it
explains, but as a simple example, in your current Modeler, make a box and
metaform it twice.  The resulting object is still a long way from being a good
smooth sphere, with large polys, and traces of its six-sided origin in the
overall shape.  In 5.0, activating MetaNURBS produces a smooth sphere composed
of spline patches within the polygonal model, which becomes the "control cage"
for the NURBS model.  Beveling, pushing, pulling, stretching and bending the
control cage results in smooth, organic deformations of the NURBS model.

In addition, the pairing of a polygon in the control cage with a spline patch
in the NURBS model means that operations which are complex in other
NURBS-based modelers are easy in Lightwave.  For example, in most other NURBS
modelers it can be a multi-step process to define and remove an area of the
model.  In Modeler, simply select the polygon counterpart, cut it, and the
appropriate spline patch is removed.

Portions of the model's surface can be named and characteristics can be
applied just by selecting the polygon counterparts.

The model can be "frozen" (converted to the polygon-based models which Layout
requires) at selectable resolutions, so it can be as smooth or as simple as
you need it to be.  Point-order preservation routines for variations of the
model saved at the same resolution allow the easy creation of multiple morph
targets from the initial model.
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From: [e-mail](William A. Mendez )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 Ships Tomorrow/ALPHA free? NOT
Date: 18 Apr 1996 03:58:54 GMT
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>According to Dave Hibsher, NT Tech Writer, on the mail list, Alpha
owners
>upgrade free.


That's funny I ordered my ALPHA upgrade today and the only thing that
was free was the T-SHIRT.

the also confirmed that this was not a 5.0 pre-release it the real
thing.

Will Mendez

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From: [e-mail](William A. Mendez )
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Subject: ALPHA Visual FX MAG
Date: 18 Apr 1996 04:06:48 GMT
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HEllO,

Did anyone get a copy of this mag at NAB it was supposed to be released
there.




Thanks!
Will Mendez

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Subject: RE: WIN95 better than OS/2 PLEASE!!!!
Date: 19 Apr 1996 01:19:25 GMT
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I feel the same about WIN95 and OS2. To each there own; However, WIN95
works great for me now and OS-2 warp warped my PC. I never got OS2 warp
work on the same PC that I now have WIN95 working on. IBM tech support
even gave up. ANYONE WANT A FREE COPY OF OS/2 WARP. I'll even throw in,
literally, al the junk fixes I had to down load for free.

On Monday, April 15, 1996, Mike Michalowicz wrote...
> Bandwidth placeholder, just thought I'd add some more FUD to this
discussion.
> Every OS has its pros and cons, stop dwelling.  Grow up:
>
> "My tool is bigger than yours", hey no no, "Mine is bigger"
> Casual users will use casual products designed and marketed for casual
users.
> People who need stability use stable products indicated as such and
become
> comfortable with them.
>
> I am comfortable with OS/2, hey some OS/2 apps are horrible, some are
the most
> robust pieces of software I have ever seen.
> I have yet to be impressed by a Microsoft application.  Yes they own the
> market.
> Unfair business practices?  Maybe.  IBM's stupidity: yes.
>
> Boy isn't this a waste of bandwidth.
> (This message seen in its entirety due to the lack of any GPF's or modal
> dialogs
>  telling me I don't ".. have enough memory to complete operation.")
>
> Mike Michalowicz
> Lucent Technologies
> [e-mail]     "Warped"
>
>
>


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From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Journey / Student Pricing
Date: 18 Apr 1996 21:35:11 -0400
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In article <scotta.829778763@shellx>, [e-mail] (Scott Adams)
writes:

>
>    I know NewTek doesn't directly offer student discounts.  However,
>  I was wondering if some netizen out there might know whether or not
>  Journey or one of the other student-discount places carries Lightwave,
>  and the current price for 4.0 (I doubt they have 5.0 yet).  Also, if
>  somebody knows the number for Journey or whoever carries it, I'd sure
>  appreciate it.  Thanks in advance!

It's not for individual students, but NewTek does have special pricing for
Educational or Government Institutions
Any NewTek dealer can sell Toasters,  Flyer, and LightWave at a special
low price.  Lab packs are also available.

________________________________________________________________________
Don James   The Computer Room    Colorado's Desktop Video Specialists
2760 S. Havana St.  Aurora, CO  80014        [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Need Amiga 4000 Repair (kinda off topic)
Date: 18 Apr 1996 21:41:26 -0400
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In article <4l33n9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (PalaBart)
writes:

>I've got an A4000 on the blink (the other 2 are working so Im' still in
>business).  However, I don't have a contact for repair of these things
>anymore.  Anyone out there know of a repair facility for the A4000?
>
>

Try PSI in Philadelphia.

________________________________________________________________________
Don James   The Computer Room    Colorado's Desktop Video Specialists
2760 S. Havana St.  Aurora, CO  80014        [phone]

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On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:54:46 GMT, [e-mail] (Vito) wrote:

->On 17 Apr 1996 22:52:00 GMT, Ben Cannon <[e-mail]> wrote:
->
->>I am typing this on a Intel 486-80 running NT with a mere 16 megs of RAM!!!
->>WIth Service Pack #4, NT blazes. almost as fast as Linux and faster than Win 3.11
->>(16-bit apps)
->
->Hmm.. well Now that you are done lying to us, can you explain that PC
->magazine tested NT on a p90 with 16 megs RAM and said with only 16
->megs (Even with more) it was the SLOWEST thing that they had EVER
->seen..  What are you running, NOTEPAD!
->Sorry Ben, it just dont cut it..
->
->NT has a 12 meg footprint just to get it off the ground!
->16 megs and a dx480.. no way...
->IT wont be blazing fast with that config!


I believe we need to put things into perspective children.  I am
running Boot Managed OS/2, Win95 and Linux on the same machine.  I
have been involved with OS/2 for 6 years and Windows for a bit longer.
Linux is new to me.  At any rate, my feelings are that you choose the
operating system that best fits your needs.  All of our companies and
friends will have some of each.

OS/2 is great for Servers.  It never crashes.  True Cooperative multi
tasking.  Win95 is great for the desktop (amateur) user.  It is not
cooperative but pre-emtive multi tasking.  (other things will slow
down when you try to do something else...)  Win/ NT is OS/2. (5 years
late).  At any rate, you will have all the above to deal with at some
time or another.

Learn them all.  They all have their benefits.  The Microsoft line has
a definite jump on applications. (client)..The IBM line has a definite
jump at true cooperative processing.  For the average user, they would
never see it...It would appear that WIN95 keeps on trucking...The
truth is that Win95 stops a process to give more time to another
(16bit) to compensate.)

Just enjoy them all because by the end of the year we will all be
complaining about the "Newest" operating systems....

Keep complaining...they will only get better.  Hopefully both IBM and
Microsoft have learned from the mistakes that the mainframe community
made 20 years ago.  They solved those problems many moons ago.  We who
have been there require the same from alternative platform operating
systems.

Otherwise, we might as all hang it up and play Dos Doom.

Have a nice day.

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From: [e-mail] (Todd A Bartholow)
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Subject: Re: Student price for LW 5.0 WOW
Date: 19 Apr 1996 01:38:31 GMT
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Adam Ives Chrystie ([e-mail]) wrote:

:  On the mailing list it was announced that there is a student price for
: LW 5.0 at $849. I don't know anything about a student upgrade price from
: 4.0 though.

: Adam Chrystie

: --
: ----------------------------------
: Adam Chrystie LightWave 3D Animator
: Cinema/Video Major, Senior
: University Of California at Santa Cruz

Will there be any differences (i.e. less features)  between the student version and the normal version?

Todd


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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
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Adam Ives Chrystie wrote:
>
>  On the mailing list it was announced that there is a student price for
> LW 5.0 at $849. I don't know anything about a student upgrade price from
> 4.0 though.

Ouch! That is about the same as MAx and MAX is a $4,500 program. I guess
I better start selling some crack to afford it :) It think $600 would be
a little more fair for a $1,500 program. Hell you can get Softimage at a
student price of $1,000 and that is a $7,500 program.

Jeff

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From: [e-mail] (Eric J Fleischer, MD)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW 5.0 at NAB
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[e-mail] (Jeff Holinski) wrote:

>Now that LW 5 has been shown at NAB and a couple of people have even bought
>their upgrades, how about some details on the improved bones Newtek mentioned.
>
>Can you finally build a human where the arm bone doesn't pull the ribs when
>you move it. (eg. can bones be set to ignore certain surfaces)

   You've been able to do that for a while. Its all a matter of how
you set up the bones, and being careful with limited range sizes.
Hopefully, the 5.0 improvements will make this even easier.


<ELF> - Dr Gandalf - Eric J Fleischer, MD
AlfHeim Imaging
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: LonerSam <[e-mail]>
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So how much is the upgrade then?

LSam

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From: wert <ert>
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Hi there,
Does anyone know anything about the Ron Thornton modeling
and surfacing videos? I'm in need of a some help with using
lightwaves modeler, and since this guy's such a master at using
it, I thought I'd give it a try. Is it worth the $50? And is
it worth spending $50 more to get the surfacing video too?
Thanks in advance for any help.
                            Dan ([e-mail])


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Yep, gotta say it...LW 5.0 is cool. Saw it at NAB on Wednesday. It appears
to be every bit worth the upgrade price even without the hat or t-shirt
:). (Nope don't work for NewTek! I just love great software that does
radically cool stuff!) Ordered mine today, and can't wait to try out the
Metanurbs, etc.

I am sorta bummed that I missed Dick Van Dyke though. Well, maybe next
year.


PJ
[e-mail]
Visual Designer

"Look and you will find it--what is unsought will go undetected"
SOPHOCLES

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From: Glenn Chung <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: My take on NAB: 3DS MAX vs. LW 5.0
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:55:51 -0500
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To those of you who've been waiting, here are the pertinent feature
lists:

3DS MAX                        LW 5.0

Particle System                Nope (but look to plug-ins)
Realtime Textured Views        OpenGL Shaded View (no textures)
Spline Patches                 Spline Patches, sort of
Animatable Booleans            Nope
Nope                           Raytracer
Complete Object History        User-Defined Undo Levels
Modeless                       Modeler/Layout still exist as two
Animatable Textures            Nope
Nested Booleans                Nested Booleans
Interactive Texture Placement  Nope
Unlimited Texture Layers       Unlimited Texture Layers
Not Yet (Fall '96)             DEC Alpha support
Plug-Ins SDK                   Plug-Ins SDK
Nope                           Metaballs
IK                             IK (much better than 4.0)
Network Rendering (10,000)     Network Rendering (1,000)
Internal Alpha Channel         Nope, only external
Render to PVR                  Render to PVR
Unlimited lites in shaded view Limited to 8 lights in shaded view
Anim channels independent      Anim channels linked
Volumetric Lights/Shadows      Nope
Nope                           Lens Flares
Unlimited Cameras              One Camera
UV Mapping                     Nope
Synch Anims to .WAV Files      Nope
Multithreaded                  Nope


I spent three hours with MAX and about 45 minutes with LW 5.0 because I
know LW much better and because the LW 5.0 upgrade is much less drastic
a change than the upgrade from r4 to MAX.

Overall (and I speak from having used LW 4.0 in a pretty intense
production environment for the last six months) I must say that MAX is a
much more capable program ON PAPER than LW 5.0. I haven't had a chance
to put MAX to the real test of deadlines and picky art directors, but
the three hours I spent with the program have me feeling pretty sad for
LW 5.0. MAX is so much more flexible and the realtime textured views
were much better than the color-shaded only views generated by LW. Plus,
LW and OpenGL only support eight lights at a time in the shaded view -
not a problem for some, but a definite limit for us.

The one BIG question in all this will be MAX's final render quality.
We've been fairly happy with LW 4.0 and its raytracer and are not quite
sure about the reflection, refraction, shadow, and environmental mapping
functions MAX uses to fake its way to photorealism.

Well. I was sufficiently impressed with MAX to place an order on the
last day of the show. I found MAX easy to use after having used LW for
some fairly serious stuff. You use spline curves to control animation
channels in much the same way, light placement is intuitive, and the
texture mapping features are a joy to use.

MAX will support and GLINT-chip based 3D accelerator with its HEIDI API,
whereas LW 5.0 supports any OpenGL based solution, including the
software OpenGL that ships with every copy of NT Workstation 3.51. Both
packages performed well as far as I could tell. MAX was running on a
plain Pentium 133 w/64meg RAM and a 2meg Diamond Stealth/64, LW on an
Alpha 233. The booleans on MAX took a bit too long, but otherwise the
program was very usable. LW on the Alpha, of course, was just fine.

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Lightwave is cooler because its coming out for the PMac.

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From: [e-mail] (John Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Lightwave for Mac
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 22:18:20 -0700
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Please dont all attack at once:

What do you all think about lightwave coming for the Mac?  Do you find it
as a good or bad thing?  Will it help to bring studios together that use
Macs for multimedia and/or pre-press?

just curious


JohnO.

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From: [e-mail] (Steve Tack)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Journey / Student Pricing
Date: 19 Apr 1996 05:17:32 GMT
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>  Hey, Give NewTek a call. I just saw a blurb on the Mailing list stating
>  the student cost for Win NT LW 5.0 was $895.00. I have always spoken
>  against Student discounts, but if NewTek supports them and I support them
>  I guess I now support the student discount!!!! No price or data was
>  announced for the Mac package. I do hope that to qualify students
>  have to be enrolled in a LW course at least. I saw no info on what
>  makes a student elegelable(sp) for the program. I hope it at least
>  requires spelling that is better than mine;-)
>
>  -bill

Yes, there's a company that offers academic pricing for Lightwave.  I just
ordered 4.0/Intel for $575 and was able to order the 5.0 upgrade at the same
time.  The academic pricing for the upgrade is $295.  I should receive 4.0
either tomorrow (Friday) or Monday, but apparently won't see 5.0 for 4 - 6
weeks.  I am currently taking a 3D animation class using Strata (Mac), and I
just had to fax them a copy of my class schedule.

Oh yeah, the $895 price for the full 5.0 package is correct.

They're A+ Computing at 1-800-878-1354.  I can't really recommend them yet, as
I haven't received anything yet, but they seem legit.

Steve Tack


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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: ERROR NO FREE ALPHA UPGRADE
Date: 19 Apr 1996 05:21:24 GMT
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Woopps..the NewTek employee who said that teh ALPHA version would get a
free upgrade to 5.0 made an ERROR..

MIPS versions will get a free upgrade...who the heck uses a MIPS version
anyway? i know nobody....

Adam
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Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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From: [e-mail] (Ricardo Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Text extrusion bug
Date: 19 Apr 1996 05:29:58 GMT
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  Hey all!

  Maybe I missed this in a previous discussion but I was wondering why I get
  so many errors when extruding ANY font to make the standard flying logos.
  I know y'all have done this so let me know what the fix is! :)

  The problem is when I create text, it surfaces the faces wrong.  For
  instance, the inside circle on an "O" is filled in with diagonal facing,
  instead of it being open.  I usually end up deleting the faces and manually
  making new polygons out of each letter.  It is long and tedious.  I have
  tried different fonts, both type 1 and type 2 and the Windows NT and 3.1
  platforms.  Was there a fix or workaround for this?

  Thanks...

 -Charlie


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From: [e-mail] (Mel Matsuoka)
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Subject: Re: IRC Channel & Transparency
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On Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:59:19 -0400, TL Westgate <[e-mail]> wrote:

>These are two seperate subjects in one message, by the way.
>
>First, I can never find anyone on #lightwave. What server do people
use
>mostly? What are good times to catch someone? Any info on this
would be
>appreciated.


The #lightwave IRC channel is on the efNet network of IRC servers.
You probably were hooking up to Undernet instead.

Good efNet servers include:

irc.phoenix.net
irc.colorado.edu
irc.portal.com

But you should pick a server geographically closest to you to avoid
lags.

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Hawaiian Image Video Productions
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From: [e-mail] (Ted Lindsey)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave for Mac
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:44:17 -0800
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In article <olsonjj-1804962218220001@129.219.72.219>, [e-mail]
(John Olson) wrote:

> Please dont all attack at once:
>
> What do you all think about lightwave coming for the Mac?  Do you find it
> as a good or bad thing?  Will it help to bring studios together that use
> Macs for multimedia and/or pre-press?
>
> just curious
>
>
> JohnO.

I think it's a great thing. I know of many people who use Mac's for all of
their 2D graphics and video composition but have to deal with Windows NT
for their 3D needs.

- Ted

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From: [e-mail] (ToastRGuy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Flyer HQ-5 approved HD's list?
Date: 19 Apr 1996 01:50:14 -0400
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In article <4l66hg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David
Kim) writes:

>Where oh where on the net can I find a list of hard drives approved
>by NewTek for use with the Video Flyer?
>
>If it's a short list could someone please post the approved models
>here?

Instead of having to constantly update a list, NewTek decided to include a
utility to let you or your Dealer test any drive.  It's now part of Flyer
HD Tools.

There are several parameters that the drives must have to run smoothly,
such as transfer speed, access time, and cache size.  Very few drives have
the 1 MB of Cache that's needed for non-linear video.  Without it, you
will either get stuttering playback, or the inability to capture the
footage in the first place.

Here are the best current drives available, and the cost through The
Computer Room,

Figure approximately 4-5 minutes of broadcast quality video storage per
gigabyte.  All hard drives are certified to be in compliance with NewTek
specifications, and carry 5 year warranties.  All will do HQ5 for 80-90%
of drive

4 Gigabyte, Seagate Barracuda     ST15150N
with NewTek Mode Sense Data added by Distributor                $ 1350

9 Gigabyte, Seagate Elite
Firmware Rev 4304, Must be requested from Distributor            $ 2400


________________________________________________________________________
Don James   The Computer Room    Colorado's Desktop Video Specialists
2760 S. Havana St.  Aurora, CO  80014        [phone]

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From: Hammed Malik <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 01:30:42 -0400
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Chuck Baker wrote:

> MetaNURBS is our implementation of modeling using NURBS patches controlled by
> a polygon-based cage.   This demonstrates a great deal easier than it
> explains,

Thank you for posting this explanation of the new feature.  Its great to see
active participation by Newtek reps in this newsgroup.  Since its not a secret
anymore, is there any chance of putting screen shots of the feature in action on
the web site?

> overall shape.  In 5.0, activating MetaNURBS produces a smooth sphere composed
> of spline patches within the polygonal model, which becomes the "control cage"
> for the NURBS model.  Beveling, pushing, pulling, stretching and bending the
> control cage results in smooth, organic deformations of the NURBS model.

Are there any control handles for modifying the curves that make up the patches
or is the shape of the curve still defined only by the position of verteces?

> In addition, the pairing of a polygon in the control cage with a spline patch
> in the NURBS model means that operations which are complex in other
> NURBS-based modelers are easy in Lightwave.

Have some other questions but I think they'd be best answered if I could see
screen shots.

> The model can be "frozen" (converted to the polygon-based models which Layout
> requires) at selectable resolutions, so it can be as smooth or as simple as
> you need it to be.

I saw a new plugin mentioned in the list of new features which metaforms an
object in layout just prior to rendering.  Does that apply to MetaNurbs as well?

hammed



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From: [e-mail] (VirtualBri)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave for Mac
Date: 19 Apr 1996 02:55:03 -0400
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ATTTAAACCCK!!!!

:)

Actually, it's a great thing.  Too bad they waited until I went over to
the Dark Side before announcing it.
--Brian

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From: [e-mail] (David Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightWave 5.0 at NAB
Date: 19 Apr 1996 07:47:37 GMT
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Stranahan ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Metaballs is totally real in LW 5.0, and works well. My brother Ken has
: done some neat stuff with them....

The LightWave mailing list has been receiving about 200 messages a day
since the LW 5.0 announcement....the resident NewTek-head there, David
Hibsher, has been answering just about every LW 5.0 question asked.

LightWave 5.0's feature list is very impressive...it is certainly the
most exciting and powerful upgrade to LightWave that we have witnessed.

If anyone here would like to read what is being discussed on the mailing
list, check out the mailing list archives on my web site.


                                     -David Warner
                                      [e-mail]
                                      http://www.albany.net/~dwarner

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From: [e-mail] (David Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: The Fx kit for Lightwave book
Date: 19 Apr 1996 07:51:39 GMT
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domenico marino ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Is there anyone who have bought "The Fx kit for Lightwave book" ????
: I have send Two faxes to Light-Speed to have more informations on it
: and how to buy it.... but nothing......
: Is there anyone who tell me how can I buy it ????
: I live in Italy.....

Check out the Lightspeed Web Site at http://www.webcom.com/lghtspd

You can get more info on all Lightspeed products and even order them while
online, if you have a credit card.

From what I understand, the FX KIT FOR LIGHTWAVE just recently sold out of
all copies, but a new batch is being run off right now and should begin
shipping in a couple of weeks.  It's a very good book!


                                     -David Warner
                                      [e-mail]
                                      http://www.albany.net/~dwarner

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From: Martin Preston <[e-mail]>
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>Looking for a job? Check out
>http://www.inlink.com/~kenmil

Yes but not in the Greater St. Louis area! (Try to be more specific next time
you advertise this, it sounded like it was worldwide).

Martin
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From: [e-mail] (David Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW 5.0 NOT ready to ship
Date: 19 Apr 1996 08:02:42 GMT
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Jeff Jasper ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I find it hard to believe that a problem with the documentation would delay
: them that long.

Many DEC-Alpha workstation owners have been waiting for months to receive
the final version of LightWave 4.0 and I'm one of them.  NewTek's excuse
was "no manuals" for many months...the STRANGE thing is that some Alpha
owners received their copy of the final release months ago, others
received it weeks ago, and others (like me) are still waiting.

If LightWave 5.0 doesn't ship until 1997, when they've already started
taking orders (and charging people's cards), then I will have lost what
little respect I have left for them at this point.

Sorry NewTek, but I'm sick of fighting with you to receive my copy of
LightWave 4.0 Final for Alpha...why has this been such an ordeal??

                                     -David Warner
                                      [e-mail]
                                      http://www.albany.net/~dwarner

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From: [e-mail] (David Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Where is LW 4.0 Alpha??
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Those of you who are subscribed to the LightWave mailing are probably sick
of hearing me bitch and moan about this, but here I go again...

I would like to know why it is taking NewTek so long to ship Alpha owners
their copy of LightWave 4.0 Final?  I know some people that received their
update months ago, while others only received their update only a few
weeks...then there are the rest of us, who still struggle along with the
Pre-Release version of LightWave 4.0 for the Alpha.

In case you didn't know, LightWave 4.0 Pre-Release has a version date of
4/5/95 (my copy does, anyways)...so this means that I (and others) are
still using software that is more than a year old.

What I find even more annoying is the fact that NewTek has had the
resources to make these upgrades available to everyone via the BBS and FTP
site...they provide this "service" to Intel users, but not to the Alpha
users.  WHY?

I would be quite happy if I could download the newest version of LightWave
4.0 for Alpha from the NewTek BBS or FTP site...at least then I would be
able to run the plug-ins that I purchased months ago and maybe LightWave
wouldn't crash as much!

So now LightWave 5.0 has been anounced and NewTek wants me to shell out
another $500 for this new version when I STILL haven't received the new
version of LightWave 4.0.  This doesn't sound very fair.  Don't get me
wrong, I'm extremely excited about version 5.0 and am looking forward to
getting ahold of it, but I think that some consideration should be given
to the people who are STILL waiting to receive LightWave 4.0.

I invite other Alpha owners to make your voices heard!


                                     -David Warner
                                      [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: NT_AVI Plugin problem
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[e-mail] (Christopher Stewart) wrote:
>
>In a message dated Thu, 18 Apr 1996 01: [e-mail] writes:
>
>W> I've a little Problem with the NT_AVI Plugin.
>
>W> If I want to choose the NT_AVI Plugin in the Record Menu
>W> I get this error message:  Activation failed:  code -2
>
>W> I've added the plugin in the options menu like all the others,
>W> but there was no entry in my lw.cfg file.
>
>W> So I've added this line:
>W> Plugin AnimSaverHandler NT-AVI(.avi) C:\NEWTEK\plugin\layout\nt_avi.p
>W> NT-AVI(.avi)
>
>W> I'd appreciate if anyone can help me with this.
>
>     Can't help but if it's any consolation, I can't get the NT-AVI saver
>to show up either. This is after several attempts to "re-install" all the
>win '95 crap. It just dosen't want to appear. Let me know if you find
>a solution. Right now Lightwave hasn't produced an animation in four
>months. Some 3D animation program...
>
>Christopher

I have the same problem in windows 3.1. Why can't Newtek staff answer
tech questions in this newsgroup? like SoftLogik does with PageStream in
the amiga applications group. Don't they know support is important for
Lightwave's reputation? Hrrm.

/Per Swantesson


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From: [e-mail] (Dave Madden)
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Subject: Request for Original Art
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April 18,

Alpha Visual FX magazine, a new magazine focusing on Alpha workstations
and computer graphics applications that run on them, is seeking
original art for its Summer edition. Images should be made on an Alpha
workstation using LightWave, Softimage, Hash Animation Master or other
software that runs on the platform. Bright, colorful images are
preferred. This issue also features a tutorial on character animation
so an image in that vein would be appreciated.

We do not pay for use of these pictures. But they are seen by several
thousand people in the industry, many of them your friends and
colleagues.

Images should be sent on disk (PC/MAC floppy or Zip) in JPEG or TIFF
format, 24bit color, minimum resolution of 1024x728. They can be zipped
(PC) or disk-doubled (Mac) to save space. Files (zip only) also can be
emailed to me direct.

The mailing address is:

Dave Madden, Editor
Alpha Visual FX
1308 Orleans Drive
Sunnyvale, CA 94089

408-743-9250
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Madden)
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Subject: Game development/Video editing on Alpha machines
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April 18,1996

Hello!
I am the editor of Alpha Visual FX, a new magazine focusing on Alpha
workstations and the graphics applications that run on them. Our first
edition was just distributed at the NAB convention in Las Vegas.

I am working on an article for our Summer edition about computer game
development and am trying to reach developers who use the Alpha machine
either for rendering or in all aspects of their projects. The article
also will touch on the popular software packages used for games, such
as 3D Studio (Dos and MAX), LightWave and others. I know 3D Studio is
very big in this area so I would love to hear from you folks.

We also are looking for video professionals who use an Alpha machine.
We want to commission an article about the experiences you and your
colleagues have had with the Alpha and various software packages.

Please send me e-mail with your name, studio name, a tele. no. and a
brief description of past and current projects. I will make contact
with as many of you as possible.

Thanks in advance!!

Dave Madden
AMG Media, Inc.
1308 Orleans Drive
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
408-743-9250
408-743-9251 (fax)

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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Bowie)
Subject: Re: Journey / Student Pricing
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Scott Adams ([e-mail]) wrote:
:     Hey...

:     I know NewTek doesn't directly offer student discounts.  However,

It does now....details will be posted shortly no doubt.  Sorry, I didn't
commit them to memory.
--
    Steve Bowie [e-mail]
    North York, Ontario, Canada
      << new sig imminent...honest!! >>

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From: [e-mail] (Ken Schmitt)
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Subject: The Only Amigas at NAB...... at Newtek
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asside from the DRACO in the booth on the east wall, running there
version of amiga OS.....

If it wasn't in the NEWTEK booth...
it wasn't AMIGA...

On the lighter side.....

If they had graphics playing, the chances are strong that they were
playing a piece from hypernaughts, b5, or a demo animation from the
scenes provided by newtek (the lack of originality was startling).


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From: [e-mail] (Ken Schmitt)
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On 19 Apr 1996 08:47:48 GMT, [e-mail] (David Warner)
wrote:

>Pre-Release version of LightWave 4.0 for the Alpha.

it took them 5 1/2 months to mail me my full intel 4.0.....
and thats after calling 3 times a week for 2 of those months.